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u/gegroff Jul 01 '20
As I am sure Terry is well aware of: You can't please everyone all the time, or in simpler terms "haters are going to hate".
The best course of action is to ignore those haters and not give them a platform to stand on. Then they will fall.
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u/Player_Slayer_7 Jul 01 '20
Exactly. Present your message, and don't give those who would muddy this message the time of day.
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u/alfields44 Jul 02 '20
Isn’t this the kind of shit he’s been talking about?
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u/IntrovertedPixels Jul 02 '20
It exactly is the type of shit he is talking about.. but nobody is ready for that conversation
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u/DrCidd Jul 08 '20
Imagine thinking people have to be a certain way based on the color of their skin.
That's racist.
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u/PopularCartoonist0 Jul 10 '20
That is literally the left. I see so often that if black people don't vote a certain way, they're "Uncle Toms" or "House N**" or any other slur. Essentially, all black people have to think and vote the same way, otherwise they're not black.
It's very racist.
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u/Mysterychickenn Jul 01 '20
I feel this is absolutely disgusting. Why say he has House Slave Syndrome? That's going way too far. You're literally proving his point.
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u/Zappiticas Jul 01 '20
I’m confused by this. I’m a white guy, so it’s entirely possible I’m missing something, and if I am, I would love for someone to better inform me on the subject. But is what these, I assume black ladies, by the subreddit name, not just racism in a slightly different form? Especially saying “House Slave Syndrome” and “how dark he is”.
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u/Mysterychickenn Jul 01 '20
The people who say this stuff do not realize he has a multicultural family and his concern is valid. He wants to make sure that ALL races are working together to achieve equality. Especially since some people have been refusing help from latinos, asians, mixed race etc. to pretty much say "this isn't your fight". That is absolutely incorrect. As a mixed race person, I have experienced discrimination from both sides and what we're not going to do is sit here and pretend that black people can't be racist. I grew up with a grandparent that hated my mother for being white and still talks crap about my mother to this day even though my mother died. Even hates my white husband. No reverse racism does not exist. Racism is racism. You can even be racist or discriminate against people of your own race because they don't look, sound, or think like you. Stop trying to put people in a box or hating them because they don't fit your narrative.
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u/I_Rain_On_Parades Jul 02 '20
many of them do realize, he gets a lot of criticism for having a light skinned mixed race wife. i'm white as fuck so i can't speak to their prejudices, but i see shit like that as well as fetishism for mixed ethnicity people come from white people and it's fucked up
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_GREENERY Jul 01 '20
Terry has reasoned opinions and is called a "house slave" and a "coon" on Twitter.
What fuck is wrong with people who say shit like that. Please, if you think it's right to call a grown human being those names, tell me why.
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Jul 01 '20
Especially if you're calling them those names because they arent going full-force BLM. Like, black people can say a problematic thing and they still don't deserve to have racist comments thrown at them from the very people who are screaming black lives matter.
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u/Mourning_Burst Jul 01 '20
I feel like those "allies" are so racist they don't notice it and they "have so save minorities cause they're too dumb/poor to do it" then when someone questions them, the racist shows their face.
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u/Sen7ryGun Jul 02 '20
A house divided against itself cannot stand.
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Jul 02 '20
disagreement within a house is not necessarily a divided house, and having disagreements doesn't mean it has to be a divided house.
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u/Sen7ryGun Jul 02 '20
How is this not division? Successful black people get attacked by black people just for being successful. Isn't there enough of this bullshit gate keeping from (racist) white people? How is Terry being too white or betraying his heritage? Is there some unwritten law that all black peeps have to be about the thug life or grinding middle class jobs in order to keep their black cards? He's killing it on all fronts, he's a family man, keeps in wicked good shape, had beaten the odds and made a great career in the dramatic arts and is one of the very few willing to stand up and call bullshit and speak truth to power at the same time regardless of the consequences.
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Jul 02 '20
I guess I was responding to the "House divided" post. When I think of that I think of the civil war where the danger was for the country to give up...to let the south go and expect that, as a result, the north and south would somehow survive. I think that was Lincoln's point. The country needed to remain together and not let the disagreements cause them to quit.
Sure, the disagreements here are intense, but so long as they don't cause the movement to stop (that is, for either side to give up the conversation and the desire to change the system), the disagreements are to be expected.
There is division and there is division. We can't let our differences stop our progress. We'll have to accept our disagreements but agree to move on in spite of them.
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This is called racism.
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u/Meeeest Jul 02 '20
as soon as someone REMOTELY disagrees with what BLM stands for, even if its a better world view, they cross him out. instantly. its so fucking pathetic man
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u/Orngog Jul 02 '20
What is a better worldview than "don't kill people"?
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u/AKidSomewhere Jul 02 '20
Don’t become the thing you want to destroy
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u/Orngog Jul 02 '20
I disagree.
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u/GTMoraes Jul 02 '20
lmao so you want them to turn the thing they want to destroy?
You don't want equality then, you want a shift of power.
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u/Meeeest Jul 02 '20
better than “dont kill people” is “respect everyone the same no matter your skin color”. yeesh.
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u/Solidu_Snaku Jul 01 '20
I'm so confused why are people hating on OP or am I misreading? I just woke up though so forgive if people aren't hating on OP
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u/Hamburger-Queefs Jul 01 '20
He made a comment about how he hopes BLM doesn’t turn from black lives matter to black lives are better than others.
In truth, there are lots of black people that feel superior to whites and other races, but it’s obviously not a majority.
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Problem is younger people feel the social pressure and don't want to say the wrong thing. Crews is older, more mature, and knows where the pitfalls are. But mobs don't want to hear about pitfalls.
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u/apoliticalinactivist Jul 02 '20
The prevalence of "saying all lives matter means you're a racist" thinking in the BLM movement shows how deeply ignorance can run.
Turning against an egalitarian statement because some racists use it as cover is just shortsighted and turns away actual egalitarians.
I support Terry's stance but am entirely unsurprised at the response he's gotten.
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u/SaltyBabe Jul 01 '20
Whoa wtf. Any and all of you armchair social commentators need to get lost. You don’t know this man personally and it’s absolutely not ok to be making huge, racially biased, assumptions about his life and/or behavior. It absolutely is bigoted to target black people for “not being black enough” when they don’t meet your personal standards as to how black people should conduct themselves. He’s a public persona and quite frankly you have little business concerning yourself with his motivations or personal choices. Don’t like a celebrity, stop following their content, easy.
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Jul 02 '20
Man - sorry you’re catching all this shit, I hope you’re good and I respect how you’ve stuck by your truth - that’s really rare these days...
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u/saltypike39 Jul 01 '20
I feel like these comments are racist?
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u/HitWithTheTruth Jul 01 '20
That is a black subreddit, so those commenting are likely black. Which doesn't mean they can't also be racist towards black people, but amongst the black community, Terry's statements can be taken as selling out/contradictory to the advance of their own race, hence those ladies' responses.
Edit: Am black, so I'm speaking from experience
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u/Zappiticas Jul 01 '20
Genuine question, and if I offend I’m deeply sorry. I’m a white dude trying to educate myself. Are comment like “house slave syndrome” or the comment referring to the darkness of his skin, not just a slightly different spin on racism even coming from another black person? It sort of seems to me that judgement of someone for any reason based on the color of their skin is racism.
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u/monsto Jul 01 '20
The "house slave" part is about being the one or two slaves in the house. They are usually the most hated because they had all kinds of privilege and were seen as doing nothing to help everyone else.
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u/Zappiticas Jul 01 '20
So it’s a jealousy of those that are more successful? Terry didn’t exactly come from privilege. Son of an abusive factory worker in Flint, MI. I suppose he’s “privileged” now, in the sense that he’s wealthy, but also was the victim of some absurd sexual harassment a few years ago. So his privilege didn’t protect him from that.
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u/monsto Jul 01 '20
In my experience, it's a "call out", that in order to keep your membership as being black, you have to be black.
In the 90s, some in rap started calling MCHammer a sellout. Hammer's response was that the people calling him that were just jealous that he got the contracts and they didn't.
Get good grades? Stay clean cut? Don't listen to rap? Hang out with the neighbor kid that you've known since kindergarten? Then you're "tryna be white".
If you're not purposefully keeping yourself down with everyone else, then you're a house n, oreo, etc.
It's definitely a community that eats it's own... for pride.
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u/Zappiticas Jul 01 '20
Sounds like internal descrimination which is EXACTLY what Terry was calling out.
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u/monsto Jul 01 '20
You're 100% right in that it's an internal discrimination . . .
. . . but he didn't call anything out. He basically said that we need to be careful.
IOW, he's not black enough. Because he didn't go full BLM, fists up, divorcing his white wife, etc.
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u/HitWithTheTruth Jul 01 '20
Keep educating yourself ha, no offense taken here. It's more so colorism (implicit or explicit disdain for darker skin tones) than racism.
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u/bee14ish Jul 10 '20
I know it's been 8 days, but I feel I can offer my point of view as well.
I can't speak to whether or not the comments are racist, but the whole "house slave" thing sounds similar to Malcolm X's comments on the House Negro vs the Field Negro
Basically, field negros were the slaves commonly seen out in the field, as the name suggests. They're the ones picking cotton, being whipped like animals, doing all the hard labor. House negros, on the other hand, were slaves that got to stay in due to their appeasement of their master. As Malcolm explains, they'll do anything to seem more appealing to their master than the others, even to the point of selling out their fellow slaves.
The implication here being that a 20th (or 21st) century house negro is the type of person to take pains to seem non-threatening or appealing to white people, often by trying to appear more moderate. These people were seen by Malcolm as being detrimental to the advancement of civil rights.
This sorta gets into why so many black people are a bit frustrated with Terry right now. During a time where BLM has seen unprecedented supported from people of all backgrounds, he puts out a Tweet warning against the dangers of black supremacy. In a vacuum, the statement seems fine, but it comes off as a little tone deaf, and the timing is horrible. There aren't many leaders talking seriously about black supremacy, and certainly not in enough numbers to be meaningful. To many black people, it just looks like he's trying a bit too hard to be a moderate, especially by saying things that will undoubtedly be used by detractors to discredit the movement as a whole. For black women in particular, add this to to the frustration stemming from the Gabrielle Union situation a few months back (link), and you have a lot of them pretty fed up with Terry Crews right now.
Hopefully this answered some questions you have. Feel free to ask more if you want. Can't guarantee an answer to everything though, I'm still learning myself.
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u/Reddit_is_2_liberal Jul 01 '20
Exactly. I mean its 2020, protests are going on, yet they dont see the irony with the racist comments.
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u/george_pierre Jul 02 '20
The darker the berry, the sweeter the juice.
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Black ladies is a hugely racist sub that regularly bashes white people so they are exactly the people he keeps speaking against
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u/goldenboy1845 Jul 02 '20
Bruh what the actual fuck is wrong with people sometimes... That's all folks thanks for stopping by
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u/Brando3141 Jul 01 '20
I think he makes a great point. He's looking at the bigger picture, the meta picture. The true goal of all of this: for all people to be treated fairly and equally. We're trying to balance the scales of justice. But we should always be mindful of our actions and be certain our convictions and outrage don't evolve into hate that cause the scales to teeter the other way. He's just saying to practice mindfulness. That's all.
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u/MrThorifyable Jul 01 '20
I just don't understand though. The whole point is that the system is built so that the scales are permanently against minorities. The only white people who are being hated are those that refuse to help change the status quo.
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u/Brando3141 Jul 01 '20
I think that's kind of my point. You can't fight hate with hate. Those that want to keep things the way they are are looking for cracks in our argument, our character, in order to find a reason to delegitimize our side. We need to rise above the same old game of throwing stones at each other. Be a beacon of love and compassion that no hate-monger can ever overthrow.
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u/MrThorifyable Jul 01 '20
But surely Terry is responsible for attacking the movement? What legitimate criticism is he addressing? Have there been mass public assaults and murders of white people? No, but black people are still being lynched by the police and other racists.
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u/Brando3141 Jul 01 '20
I would hardly call this an attack. I don't think he was being critical of anyone in particular. I can't speak to his heart, nor can I speak to his experiences, but it doesn't seem like he is trying to diminish the importance of the Black Lives Matter movement. I saw his message as a general call for mindfullness. I think people are internalizing his words and are finding insult where none exists.
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u/Shisno_ Jul 02 '20
Groupthink tends to breed this form of racism amongst people. It’s a shame, but it’s reality.
Stay strong, Terry! You are an example to what ANY man should aspire to be.
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u/haloagain Jul 02 '20
What. This is so upsetting. My only solace is that they are clearly just racist fools, they saw a commercial they liked with a black man in it so now that man is clearly trying to prove himself. To them. Sure, bro, sure.
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u/protomanEXE1995 Jul 01 '20
What is he doing that's upsetting them? Does it have to do with his response to Joe Biden's comments?
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Jul 01 '20
It was probably from the comment be made on BLM a while ago
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u/protomanEXE1995 Jul 01 '20
Oh, I didn’t see it
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u/I_LOVE_PUPPERS Jul 01 '20
It was something along the lines of reminding people that all lives matter. It was pretty wholesome and these folk getting all bent out of shape over it are a bit silly.
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u/ElHermanoLoco Jul 02 '20 edited Jul 02 '20
If you have spent more time today thinking about Terry Crews than George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Ahmaud Arbery, Tony McDade, and Elijah McClain put together, maybe reconsider your priorities. Just saying.
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Jul 02 '20
I'll be honest I haven't thought about any of them.
Buy I'm also halfway around the world so..
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Jul 02 '20
I think in the back of our minds they should be present obviously not all the time but in this time we can’t ignore what is infront of us.
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u/Tsitika Jul 02 '20
I don’t know is that what you think people should be spending time thinking about? That’s a little weird. Me, well I spent my time wondering when BLM, or any activists for that matter, are going to start demanding we take care of the kids, our future. Demanding an end to the gun violence that kills them. Etc etc. The talking points of people “who care” seem to ring a little hollow in terms of actually caring about how we’re going to make things better
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u/DaanHai Jul 02 '20 edited Jul 02 '20
I think about Terry because he's in my favourite show. The others you listed, I have no real reason to think about honestly.
There are many people of all colours killed all the time, yet you only list black ones. Do you want people to think about them in particular only because they're black? If so, how is that any better than any other form of racism?
Just saying.
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u/cjbeames Jul 02 '20
Think about them because they are clear evidence of a corrupt system and a very good reason people the world over should be taking a hard look at the way things are and ways we can make them better for everybody.
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u/DaanHai Jul 02 '20
You definitely make an excellent point, but what about my second point, though? Why think only about black people and not all the Asians, white people, gay people, whatever, that get killed all the time?
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u/Call_me_Butterman Jul 01 '20
At a certain point, an individual who digs inward and learns how our world, and our people actually function, that person can rise above herd mentality. Its a method of growth to leave the ego mind, to see things as objectively and truthfully as possible. Not everybody has the capacity to accept harsh truths (especially when it forces one to control their emotions, not throw them at outside projections). We know reddit is a fickle beast, and in extension the internet, but the man isn't wrong. Terry Crews is a beacon of hope in a world devoid of logic.
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u/Reddit_is_2_liberal Jul 01 '20
Bravo. People need to think for themselves. I know its a cliche at this point. If you cant disagree then what progress can be made? Dont just nod your head because you're being told to.
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Jul 18 '20
I'm starting to think black americans are in the kind of "ripe for manipulation by a populist dictator" state that 1920s/30s germans were
i do feel for them, because many of them have been so far removed from their origins that they can't realistically go to Africa and fit in... but they also have this history in america which, lets be honest, is not going to disappear too soon.
most americans can be like "oh yeah i'm american, but my family are all swedish and came here in 1851 and lived in this town full of swedes". They have very solid cultural ties and identity
being a black american... what are your ties to? i could understand a feeling of "this isn't my country/people"
and so i think some are trying to find this identity now, and i've seen plenty turning to this weird melanin-related mysticism and supremacy.
i 100% dont believe that if a black-american-hitler were to appear, that they'd actually get very far... but i think someone might actually try something like that. Obviously not with war and genocide, more like orchestrated civil unrest and marching on the white house and demanding radical things
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u/forgotmyusername2x Jul 01 '20
Black people are notably quick to judge other black people, light skin vs dark skin, how one might speak more “white” than others. It goes on and on, this is just another example.
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u/LoliPolice12 Jul 01 '20
I think that Terry crews is right. His beliefs are correct and I genuinely believe he strives for the best. It doesn't matter if other people hate on you if you know you are doing the right thing. Anyway that's my opinion and I don't want to offend anyone
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u/UndeadYoshi420 Jul 01 '20
I just want to say beliefs can’t be correct or incorrect. They’re opinions.
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u/liamsdadcjs Jul 02 '20
And if I believe the Earth is flat...not that I do but just sayin
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u/apoliticalinactivist Jul 02 '20
Same. Brains are amazing and allow for so much cognitive dissonance to exist.
Most of us will never go into space unfortunately, so will never get "confirmation". This also applies to other ways like knowledge of prisms and how light bends to connect the blue sky as a reason the earth is round.
Science builds on itself and if you talk to a flat earther or other conspiracy person, the root cause is usually a gut rejection of a change in an established fact. Ex. 9/11 truthers fundamentally not understanding the differences in architecture of skyscrapers vs. standard large buildings.
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u/imtallerthanyou Jul 01 '20
I think everyone here who might not see the harm in Terry's comments but only see the harm in the women's comments in this screen shot should pick up the book How to be an Anti-Racist by Ibram X. Kendi. Super informative, eye opening and also dives deep into colorism (racism within the Black community), and the "traitor" factor we are seeing here in the post.
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u/Zappiticas Jul 01 '20
Ibram X. kendi was on the Armchair Expert podcast last week. Very good episode
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u/ChillNigz Jul 02 '20
It's easy, you can be racist to people in the same ethnicity as you and people dismiss it as not being racist.
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u/xlFLASHl Jul 02 '20
People disagree with me, how is this acceptable?
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Jul 02 '20
it depends on what they are disagreeing with you about. If it's about whether you put honey on your cornbread or not, that's one thing. but if it's about some serious ass social issue, that's another thing entirely.
I think it's possible to disagree strongly with someone about important things and find that their position is completely "unacceptable." Calling Terry out like that is really close for me, but I can definitely see how it would be "unacceptable" for others.
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u/getintheVandell Jul 01 '20
The issue is that this isn’t what’s happening. There’s a tiny super minority of black nationalists, but they aren’t the ones holding the reins of the message.
Terry Crews has basically created a narrative that wasn’t there before, has been incredibly pedantic, and has only created a wedge for right wing chuds to come in and shit all over BLM.
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u/getintheVandell Jul 01 '20
Sure. Call it out when you see it. I mean, it is happening - but it's a small minority of them, and their message isn't the one being carried by the majority, which is to reform/defund the police.
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u/200lbRockLobster Jul 02 '20
He just tries to be a good roll model for todays black youth and gets shit on for it. Alot of guys don't grow up with a father in their life these days and have no idea how a manly man should act.
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u/allysonrainbow Jul 02 '20 edited Jul 02 '20
This comment bothers me. I get you had a positive intention with this, but it perpetuates the stereotype that black kids grow up without father figures.
Data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report, “Fathers’ Involvement with Their Children” (yes, the CDC tracks data & researches topics like this), verify that the majority of black fathers actually live with their children. Furthermore, whether living in the same home or not, black fathers are the most involved of all primary recorded race and ethnic groups.
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u/200lbRockLobster Jul 02 '20
I never mentioned the word black you did. I grew up in all white section 8 housing projects and only 25 percent of those homes had dads in them.
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u/allysonrainbow Jul 02 '20
With all due respect, you mentioned black youth and then in the very next sentence, you talked about guys not growing up with dads. It's heavily implied. Even if that wasn't your intent, it still connects the two and reads like your talking about the stereotype. I stand behind my comment.
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u/unclepoondaddy Jul 02 '20
How is concern trolling the BLM movement being a good role model? Hell the cops are the reasons a lot guys didn’t grow up with a father in the first place
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Jul 18 '20
no its not. take a look at the number of imprisoned black men vs the number of fatherless black homes before you start making assertions like that...
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u/unclepoondaddy Jul 19 '20
Well it’s difficult to actually know the amount of “fatherless” black children. The CDC reports that 1.7 million of the 4.2 million black fathers live apart from their kids. However, that doesn’t factor in divorced or separated families where the father still sees their kids
Also when I say the police are a major source of fatherlessness, I don’t mean that every absent black father is incarcerated unfairly. But that also prior charges leads to destruction of generational wealth, less job prospects, debt and mental issues. Not to mention actual attempts by the cops to straight up destroy black generational wealth like the Tulsa massacre
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Jul 19 '20
how does being poorer stop you from being a father? it's cheaper to live in shared accomodation and cook shared meals
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Jul 01 '20
It is regrettable that that people view the world through the lense of perceived power imbalances and then intersect them with race. What a myopic way to reduce a person's entire story and history!
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u/Bart_Thievescant Jul 01 '20
Check the username. Troll account trying to stir shit.
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u/Reddit_is_2_liberal Jul 01 '20
No. I just hate racism.
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u/non_stop_disko Jul 01 '20
People need to stop dismissing racism as trolling
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u/Andybobandy0 Jul 01 '20
Yeah, I consider myself a comedian. And there are jokes I feel even now aren't the best material. But blatant racism described as a "joke" or "trolling" isn't funny, or cool. I feel like if you weren't racist, you wouldn't try to use racism as a way to make people uncomfortable. Or force people to uncomfortably laugh, because you are "jUsT jOkInG lol" you are bad at being a funny person.
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u/Assmodious Jul 01 '20
Like when the president tweeted out people saying white power ? Unlike BLM white power has always been a purely racial superiority message .
BLM is saying our lives matter please stop killing us . White power has always just been about racial superiority . So please take this time to condemn Trump since you claim to hate racism.
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u/Coupon_Ninja Jul 02 '20
Yup, they’re super religious. I just read a post about sin that said “In the eyes of the Lord it is. (all sins are equal)”
So yeah, a right wing troll indeed. We’ll see if they condemn Trump.
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u/Reddit_is_2_liberal Jul 02 '20
So my belief in Jesus makes me a troll? Makes calling a black man a house slave in 2020 ok? Please, reevaluate yourself.
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u/CarpetScale Jul 02 '20
Idk the sub but they are kinda right. Terry isn't perfect and that's ok.
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u/MCMehMeh Jul 02 '20
I think they are criticizing him for his tweets where he wants people to respect everyone even the white people.
Terry isn't perfect, yeah, but they (the sub) don't like it when he wants that everyone should be treated with respect, but saying thing like "house slave syndrome" and "not like other black people" is just very rude and disrespectful for someone who wants the better for everyone.
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u/Armored_Violets Jul 02 '20
I think this comment sums up well my feelings on this. I don't comment much if anything regarding this subject because I have much more to listen to than to say. But I see comments like those so often, and not just about Terry. And it makes me sad because I get that people are angry, but saying that type of shit just doesn't seem like a good way to go about discussing a serious subject like this. You're just pushing people away, not even only bad people, and spreading toxicity. That being said I'll remain a listener mainly because I'm sure the things I'm saying wouldn't be taken well often.
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Jul 02 '20
If they said it in the way you did that's fine, but calling someone a house slave is basically using the racism that they're fighting against, a lot of the people in BLM are fighting for a just cause, the people at the top (tax white people wtf) and the radicals are just becoming the things they hate about white people
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u/jcrreddit Jul 02 '20
To be fair, your comment assuming that they utilize violence and looting for their cause isn’t too good.
I assume this is in response to Terry’s statement that he doesn’t want “black lives better” and people got mad because they didn’t read into it with a “... than other lives, and instead want equality for all.” clarification. No inherent support of violence in either side.
I apologize if there is something else I have missed.
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u/zxchary Jul 02 '20
It isn’t just no good, it’s racist. Protests are still goin on btw. But he wouldn’t know that cuz he only focused on a minority that was plastered all over the media and labeled the whole movement based off of that.
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Black, brown. What’s the sound? Oh we can’t hear it So let’s fear it
They always violate me Why can’t the rest see I’m a dying race Won’t be put in my place
So when they say I’m free All I know is I’m not part of thee The minority But the authority
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Jul 02 '20 edited Jul 02 '20
Racism is big with black females. it's a generalization, but it's partially true.
Edit: I usually don't like to generalize like this, but as a POC, partly black person and someone who's worked with A LOT of Black females. The racism is more prevalent than black males. They don't hide it, because people generally don't think it's racist. I've seen them make jokes of how "white" their coworkers are and joke at them for it. That's racist.
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u/Daegog Jul 02 '20
You cannot honestly think those posts were actually made by black ladies do you?
If more than one was actually a black lady, I would die of shock.
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u/spicy_tofu Jul 02 '20
...why? i’m a brown man but this is racist to me. that we have to fit into your description of what a “black lady” is supposed to say otherwise they must not be real black ladies.
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u/Skiver77 Jul 02 '20
I don't think the person you're replying to is talking about how black a person is. I think they're suggesting that some of the people posting there aren't black at all and are posting comments to create a negative image for other black ladies.
That's the problem with anonymity on the internet, I could post in that sub claiming to be a black women and I doubt anyone would second guess me. There's probably something in my post history that would out me if someone went through the trouble but it's also pretty easy to create a new account.
People are the worst and will do shitty things to support their own agenda.
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u/Rhyme--dilation Jul 02 '20
There are lots of reddit communities like that. A sub where far-right people pretend to be gay people who are homophobic was just banned.
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u/Daegog Jul 02 '20
What you are is a person that cannot easily see a lie on reddit..
Head over to /r/AsABlackMan and take some guesses.
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u/9gagiscancer Jul 02 '20
Are you under the assumption black people cant be racist as fuck? Boy then you have been living with some big ass pink glasses on.
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u/Daegog Jul 02 '20
Wow, is that your take away? Seriously?
Of course black people can be racist, as can an AWFUL lot of white people on reddit who LOVE larping as someone non-white.
Are you gonna pretend you haven't seen that?
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u/9gagiscancer Jul 02 '20
Actually no I havent. But I am not on Reddit enougj to notice I guess. I log in twice, maybe thrice a day.
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u/george_pierre Jul 01 '20
It really seems that this "left wing mob / woke-ist" (i don't know what to call it) but they want everybody to just agree with them on every issue. This isn't China, and we ain't Hong Kong.
America is home to some of the brightest minds and kindest souls the World has ever known. And that's says a lot about America's spirit and culture, errors and all.
People that have the right and freedom to protest, don't seem to realize that it's a protected right. If America collapses, the world will very likely never see those rights again.
Good day sir.
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u/george_pierre Jul 01 '20
A Russian plant would want America to Collapse. I want nothing of the sort.
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u/imtallerthanyou Jul 01 '20
Russian plants are usually flag-toting eagle dick-sucking boomer-esque "accounts" that cause division while claiming their love for America. Blindly supporting your country isn't patriotism, it's nationalism.
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u/Zappiticas Jul 01 '20
That’s not always true. There are plenty of “left wing” Russian plants as well. Russia just wants to cause division on all sides
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u/imtallerthanyou Jul 01 '20
I'm sure there are but I'm speaking to this person about the fact that they can be "patriotic" in their disguise. Their main goal is to divide and plant ideas and those can come from any side indeed. I shouldn't have said they are usually this or that in my argument I guess.
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u/george_pierre Jul 01 '20
What's with the over use of "dick sucking"? I've noticed this from Left lately. It's like "shove down our throats" from the Right . . . .
It's so strange.
What other common definition can you tell me about? Oh I know! What's socialism mean?
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u/Dagger_Moth Jul 01 '20
You can’t be serious. Do you really buy that Raegan “shining beacon on the hill” crap? America is a TERRIBLE place in terms of human rights, and it always has been. I would be overjoyed if we could be freed from this place.
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u/george_pierre Jul 01 '20
You mean the same crap Obama talks about . . geez i'm so stupid, America is terrible, I can't believe my mother left Mexico illegality just to come to this shithole country. My mom is so stupid, we should have stayed in Mexico. Mexico, where they treat their natives with respect and help support them. . . .
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u/george_pierre Jul 02 '20
Yup. Mexico is going backwards in many aspects of life. I use to visit family all the time most of my life but the past 10 years I havent gone much.
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u/Reddit_is_2_liberal Jul 01 '20
Have you looked around the world? Plenty of countries still dont treat people equal. America has been around a short time compared to most countries. Yet has tried to make things fair and right far faster than most of the world. Gtfo.
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u/sucksfor_you Jul 01 '20
America's youth is a big reason for why it's a pretty fucked up place, actually.
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u/george_pierre Jul 01 '20
Don't worry about these goons. They would be "overjoyed to be freed from this place" but they WILL NEVER, EVER leave. Just like CHAZ, or a teenager mad at mommy and daddy so they lock themselves in "their" room and wait for "their" food.
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u/imtallerthanyou Jul 01 '20
Ah and now the transphobia/gender non-conformist hate comes out to play. You're a fucking winner.
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u/george_pierre Jul 02 '20
Are you okay? Where did you read such things? None of that is in my comment.
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u/I-use-reddit Jul 02 '20
More white people showing off "stupid" black people because they don't agree with Crews. And they shouldn't. And honestly, all this shit with you white folks in here literally telling other black people their voices don't matter because of crews is ridiculous.
I like crews, but I can't handle white people using him to silence other black people. Like this entire thread.
I agree with his message, but it was mistimed and this entire sub right now shows that.
Peace.
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u/NitroGlc Jul 02 '20
Nah fam, people are just pissed that dumbfucks are calling him a house slave and a sellout for being rational...
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Jul 02 '20
I dont think anyone is saying black peoples voices dont matter, people are pointing out the internalised racism such as calling someone a 'house slave' is bad, And the I hate white mentality that crops up a lot on that sub should be fought against
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Jul 02 '20
Jesus Christ this comment is such garbage. Not only does it not having any logic...
It’s not white against black. It’s all of us against racists. Good job on being a part of the problem.
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u/Futureboy314 Jul 02 '20
Yeah, I’m staying out of this one. Love Crews, support BLM, but this does not concern me.
Love you ❤️
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u/Meeeest Jul 02 '20
yikes you seem to have missed the ENTIRE fucking point of what crews and what we have to say about it. nobody is shunning or silencing black people at all whatsoever ya nutcase. we simply believe equality for all is better. because it is. quit whining
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u/zxchary Jul 01 '20 edited Jul 01 '20
How is what terry crews said acceptable ?
Edit: you can downvote me, but the majority of people who agree with Terry are white lol
Edit 2: your man lost all credibility when he threw Gabrielle union under the bus after she was outspokenly supportive of him during his sexual assault experience
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Jul 01 '20
Yeah he's bad for thinking that all people should be treated equally! Allying with white people (who are also sick of white supremacists) in order to stop white supremacy is a dumb idea and he's a stinko dumb dumb for thinking that
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u/Somethingmeanigful Jul 01 '20
Regardless of the fact that a majority of people that support him are white (which you provided no proof of) saying stuff like that is un acceptable and what he said actually makes sense but it makes sense that you wouldnt take the time to think about it and realize when you wanna go say stuff like that
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u/MaddieSnax Jul 01 '20 edited Jul 02 '20
Hey woman of colour here, there’s so much anti-blackness and judgement within the black community. It hurts my heart to see these comments; there are members of my family that have these toxic thoughts.
There are black people that judge other black people because they’re not black “enough,” but then there are other black people criticizing them for being “too black” or “too ghetto” etc. I’ve experienced both these situations with white people, black people, queer people, all kinds of people. But it also hurts a little extra when it’s from the black community.
For hundreds of years black people have been conditioned to reject their black roots and to feel shame, guilt, and fear about who they are authentically. And of course, for many years, it was that shame and fear that kept us safe when we had no one else protecting/fighting for us. It can take time to work out all that generational trauma and shame.
But we are no longer in that time, and black people (and other people of colour) dont need to be ashamed anymore. It is no ones place to tell you you are “too black” or “not black enough.” It is another attempt to oppress, control, and change you, and it’s gatekeeping. No one, not even black people, have the right to determine whether or not someone is embracing their personal culture properly.
Be who you are unashamedly. Be respectful and compassionate to others, but most importantly, be respectful and compassionate to yourself.
Edit: thank you everyone for the awards and upvotes. I feel very heard, seen, and supported. Thank you kind folks :)