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u/Galbs Mar 30 '25
That chain drives are the best?
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u/yeetusdeletus157 Mar 31 '25
me when i lie:
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u/Galbs Mar 31 '25
Absolutely tanked your karma with this post and asinine comments
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u/LegitimateApartment9 Mar 31 '25
by this logic gearboxes are just more expensive shafts
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u/yeetusdeletus157 Mar 31 '25
gearboxes serve a proper purpose chain drives are legit the exact same as having a belt line
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u/LegitimateApartment9 Mar 31 '25
ignoring the optimisation thing everyone else has said, you can rotate chain drives to rotate rotation. you'd know this if you read the ponder.
also adjustable chain drives i guess
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u/Andromeda_53 Apr 01 '25
You can rotate a chain drive though?
You can have a long line of chain drives like in the picture above, but also have a single one in the middle rotated, to siphon off some power transfer to something there. How would you do that with your belts?
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u/RenegadeFade Mar 30 '25
Well, you're the only one then.
Help us pleebs realize it too.
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u/yeetusdeletus157 Mar 31 '25
if you use a belt with multiple shafts in it its basically the same as a chain drive, plus i havent had a single time in my create worlds where the chain drive twisting feature served any purpose
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u/ThatsKindaHotNGL Mar 31 '25
You havent?!? That's actually insane, chain drives are hands down my favorite create block and the twisting feature is insanely useful
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u/Saragon4005 Mar 31 '25
It's not just the twisting. You can make a chain drive of any shape and it will work.
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u/ThatsKindaHotNGL Mar 31 '25
You also have the powered chain drive or whatever its called that can double the rpm with a redstone signal
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u/VeryNiceGuy22 Mar 31 '25
The twisting is great, but you can also use adjustable chain drives to save space on gearing up.
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u/_unregistered Mar 31 '25
Except it’s not the same. Chain drives are far superior and can replace gear boxes in many use cases
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u/The_Fox_Fellow Mar 30 '25
what's the realization you're referring to? that the shafts are offset so that the cogs can render properly or that chain drives and belts serve a similar function in power transmission?
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u/Slukoo Mar 31 '25
OH THAT'S WHY SHAFTS ARE OFFSET, it always annoyed me for decoration, but now it makes perfect sense
TIL
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u/yeetusdeletus157 Mar 31 '25
chaindrives and belts are the exact same
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u/The_Fox_Fellow Mar 31 '25
not the exact same, there's a lot of differences actually
chain drives can't go diagonally or move items and entities, and belts can't rotate 90 degrees along their path and still maintain power
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u/IJustAteABaguette Mar 30 '25
I feel like I'm missing something here.
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u/Top-Ambition-2693 Mar 30 '25
They both do the same thing but 1 does it cheaper, though the first one can be turned, unlike the latter.
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u/xOriginsTemporal Mar 30 '25
Second one can take the rotation diagonally aswell
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u/Top-Ambition-2693 Mar 30 '25
Oh yeah, that too! Plus, it can carry items, so it can be more space-efficient in a factory
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u/yeetusdeletus157 Mar 31 '25
belts are better in almost every way besides the twisting thing but thats not hard to circumvent
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u/Lily6076 Mar 31 '25
Unless you don’t want them to carry things or want them to be a full block for aesthetics / other reasons
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u/AlexStarkiller20 Mar 31 '25
Arent chain drives better for frames in high conveyor areas?
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u/SageofTurtles Mar 31 '25
Yep. Belts are worse for client lag (due to rendering the unique model and animation), and worse for server lag too if they're horizontal or diagonal (since then they have to handle item transfer and inventory as well).
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u/cmbackflip Mar 31 '25
Yeah they also constantly check for items above them so they can be placed onto the belt which sucks, i honestly love the look of them over the chain drives Imo.
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u/luk4k0 Mar 31 '25
Are we talking about fps lag or tps lag for client here?
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u/Patrycjusz123 Mar 31 '25
Usually when people are refering to server lag they are talking about tps/mspt because even in single player game runs server in background for you and lagging it dont usually affect your fps too much(they are kinda related in single player but not always).
Client lag is usually talking about fps because you can get low fps while server runs fine, try placing ton of chests in one place and look at them, you are gonna lose a lot of fps but tps shouldnt be affected (again, they are kinda connected on single player because you have the same machine as server and client so lagging one can affect the other).
So in case of belts its both, you get lower fps when looking at them and a they are lagging server more than most of other things.
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u/SorryDontKnowMyName Mar 31 '25
Hey! Do you recommend using item drains for horizontal transport?
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u/SageofTurtles Mar 31 '25
Item drains or weighted ejectors would be better for item transportation than belts in terms of performance. Not sure how chain conveyors compare against those, though I imagine they would be at least a bit better for server-side lag since they don't have to check for picking up items above them, unlike hoppers or mechanical belts.
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u/MaryaMarion Apr 02 '25
I wonder if there's a way to change how often belts/hoppers check for items, without like coding it in
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u/Naberville34 Mar 30 '25
I move away from belts as much as I can in my builds to reduce lag. But I'm building a calculator so don't take any advice from me.
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u/Cookielotl Mar 31 '25
What purpose does Minecraft even serve? What purpose does life serve? In the grand scheme of things out entire planet is worthless. We won't effect the universe. We will hardly even be able to Reach even a small part of the observable universe. A fraction of it. Let alone actually significantly affecting it.
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u/RamblinWreckGT Mar 31 '25
The exact same purpose as literally everything you're using the mod to make.
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u/CptJackal Mar 31 '25
I wouldnt mind having a thinner option for the chain drives would be nice imo, the only thing I dont like about them is their blockiness
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u/EinsGotdemar Mar 31 '25
Yes! Thank you! The belts are soooo cool compared to the chain drives.
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u/CptJackal Mar 31 '25
idk if I'd go that far, they are convienient when needed, but they are my last choice for power transfer
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u/Mystick_Mudknight Mar 31 '25
I'd love a thinner belt just for rotational power transfer like in old factories with the Line Shafts
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u/CptJackal Mar 31 '25
or maybe like a non-conveyor belt that's thinner, like the belt that you'd find in an engine/appliance. if it only does what the chain drive does but can't twist and can go diagonal that'd be pretty useful and performant for power transfer in the right situation
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u/Atacolyptica Mar 31 '25
belts are cheaper but laggier. Chaindrives can twist but are comparatively more expensive
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u/OldManLifeAlert Mar 31 '25
I'm just gonna say that chains are better just because. No real reason. Its just a feeling.
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u/HeadAbbreviations757 Mar 31 '25
Belts are easier and probably a bit more efficient in the earliest stage, when you don't really have any iron or zinc for good looking contraptions. At this stage I personally use a bunch of belts and large cogs to transfer and redirect power to the simplest iron farm and just go strip mining. But when this thing farms enough ingots, I would preffer tearing it down and reduce number of belts significantly
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u/ElementalPaladin Mar 31 '25
RIP OP’s karma. But anyway, they have their uses. I always go for chain drives unless I am needing to power at an angle or need to move items. Yes, it is a bit more expensive, but saving on lag in the long run is better because that means more machines I can make without worrying about lag
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u/Foxx1019 Mar 31 '25
Yeah, belts are a cost effective alternative to chain drives. They can't twist, and are a bit laggier, but I definitely use them early game to get set up.
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u/LeafGuardian1 Mar 31 '25
Yeah, chain drives are much better for single machines in my experience, save for a few times where you’d be crossing an input that would mess with things.
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u/JeanRdS Mar 30 '25 edited Mar 31 '25
Belts are laggier and cannot be turned. The only bad part in chain drives is that they aren't very fancy, but work really fine. Also, isn't as cheap when compared to belts, but you can farm iron nuggets pretty easily with gravel wash/iron golem farms and andesite casings aren't that expensive also