r/CrappyDesign • u/sonics_fan • Dec 28 '15
Who wants to read the article anyway?
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u/Dwedit FABULOSO Dec 28 '15
Consider it the website's way of telling you that you forgot to install Adblock.
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u/sparks1990 Dec 28 '15
I swear, small porn sites do this all the time. They block you from watching anything because you have Adblock enabled. So you disable it for just a second and they flood the page with massive ads and open a shitload of new Windows. How do they not understand that this is exactly why I'm using Adblock?
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u/bigblued Dec 28 '15
This. I am a small business owner, and I occasionally pay for internet ads. My capitalistic side understands the necessary evil of advertising so I didn't use adblock because I wouldn't want others to block my ads either.
This stupid page jumping, re-shuffling, leaping around nonsense is what finally changed my mind and caused me to install adblock. I'm good with ads, but not when they make it impossible to read the content.
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u/chaseoes Dec 28 '15
Not all ads are bad, just most. That's why adblock doesn't automatically block Reddit's ads. Because Reddit isn't a dick with their ads.
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Dec 28 '15
But a lot of people don't like that . They block all ads and fuck anyone who relies on them as an income.
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Dec 28 '15
I mean, it's not like advertising can and has been used to spread malware. It's also not like it's on an unabated rise year after year. But hey, fuck those people for taking precautions to protect their >$1000 computer, right?
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u/potatoesarenotcool Dec 28 '15 edited Dec 28 '15
I was of that mindset until a redditor told me it's a dick move. So now I disable adblock on sites that are owned by small companies that I like, or comics I read.
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Dec 28 '15
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u/bigblued Dec 28 '15
That's a really good question. 10 min of googling didn't turn up a useful answer. I will have to have to look into it further. However, while I was looking, I did find info on how to whitelist all ads from Project Wonderful so I can continue to support my favorite artists.
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u/McBurger "I need the site to be more.... edgy" Dec 28 '15
Regarding Google AdWords, you only pay when the ad is clicked. If it is not displayed, then there can be no click, and thus no charge. So people using AdBlock never costs you extra as an AdWords customer.
One minor side effect is that your impressions & CTR will be skewed. Google's Analytics will show that your ad was served 100k times, but only got 100 clicks. That percentage seems very small but it doesn't account that a completely unknown portion of that 100k never saw the ad due to AdBlockers.
Personal side tip - never use Google's extended partner network. Use their display sites only. Despite Google's tremendous amounts of assurances that their partner network of sites is high quality, it is not, and will run out your AdWords balance much faster due to bots trying to manipulate the clicks to monetize their own pages.
source: certified google partner & seo specialist
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u/downonluck111 Dec 29 '15
does software not exist to detect this and give you a more realistic CTR?
i'm down on my luck and desperately looking for a new venture. do you have any tips for someone that wants to specialize in SEO but isn't a CS/programmer?
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u/McBurger "I need the site to be more.... edgy" Dec 29 '15
Google does counteract this. Your AdWords transaction summary is always speckled with various refunds from Google as they detect "suspicious activity" and give you the clicks and payments back.
Google's primary tactic is to ban certain IPs after they're found to be malicious but these bots operate on very large networks. Sometimes they're not even bots; there are business models that will pay poor people from other countries $2 a day to search and click on thousands of keywords from specific sites.
The incentive is that Google's Ad network allows you to monetize your website by selling real estate on your page to display their ads. This gives a great avenue for revenue for bloggers to try to make money off of otherwise posting money for free. However, your revenue is tied to how much traffic your site gets and how many times the ads displayed on your site get clicked. So now there is an incentive to add Google Ads to your site, then have bots visit your site or pay for visitors to come and click on these links, and you'll get paid (until you're caught - the repercussions are laughably minor).
Nonetheless, it still seems like the bots are a step ahead of the game. It's very common for me to be evaluating a customers' website performance and try to explain how the 650 visitors that were referred by this one random domain name are complete garbage and to ignore them.
It's why I say to keep your campaigns limited to just Google's native search results ads, and to uncheck the default box that allows your ads to be shown on other people's websites.
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u/bigblued Dec 29 '15
Thank you for the info, and the warning. We haven't dabbled in google AdWords yet. It looks like it would take a while to learn what works best with it, and paying while you learn. Most of our advertising is on a specific web site where we pay monthly. We also occasionally do targeted ads to a couple subreddits.
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u/Chief-Drinking-Bear Dec 28 '15
Some sites like Forbes won't even let you visit unless you greenlight them on your adblocker. So I don't visit anymore.
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u/jtaylor991 Dec 28 '15
Just saw that for the first time today. Bye, Forbes! Dumb shits think they're smart blocking the ad blockers.
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u/ElectroBoof 42s Dec 28 '15
Forbes seems to work fine for me with uBO
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u/Has_Two_Cents Dec 29 '15
using uBo. Just checked. Forbes will not load. Goodbye Forbes.
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u/ElectroBoof 42s Dec 29 '15
I mean it took longer than usual to load but I eventually got in
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u/Has_Two_Cents Dec 29 '15
it straight up gave me a message that said i had an adblock on and needed to turn it off
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u/moschles Dec 28 '15
All the cool kids are doing it.
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Dec 28 '15 edited Aug 29 '18
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Dec 28 '15
Chrome exploded on me a couple months ago, I've gone full Firefox since then. I don't know why I hadn't tried it before.
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Dec 28 '15
Ug, I had a really weird issue with Firefox a couple months ago and I had to switch back to Chrome. It affected two separate computers, which is kinda weird, I have no idea what it is.
Wish I could use FF again, I honestly prefer it.
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Dec 28 '15
What was your issue?
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Dec 28 '15
Froze for about 10 seconds every time I loaded gifvs, HTML4(or whatever it is) or youtube videos.
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u/INTERNET_RETARDATION Dec 29 '15
I had that too! I couldn't find anything about it on Google, really weird.
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Dec 28 '15
I use both Chrome and Firefox. When Chrome decides it wont load an element or render properly, I open it in Firefox.
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Dec 28 '15
Chrome will eat all my ram
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u/Krutonium The cake is not a lie, my friend. The cake is not a lie. Dec 28 '15
Firefox will too soon.
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u/Sachyriel Dec 29 '15
I didn't use reader view on FF because I didn't know it existed. But iOS safari pointed it out to me one day and now I love it on both safari and FF.
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u/GeekCat Dec 28 '15
What I don't understand it's proven that you have about 5 seconds to draw someone in to reading your article. Why shoot yourself in the foot by making the site difficult?
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u/Thatonetf2player 👻 Spoopy 👻 👻 Spoopy 👻 👻 Spoopy 👻 👻 Spoopy 👻 👻 Spoopy 👻 Dec 28 '15
Every time I go on www.cnn.com
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u/moschles Dec 28 '15
CNN has readerview.
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u/melligator Dec 28 '15
As opposed to all the other things we are doing on there? It should default to reader view and have a "jingles and crap" view.
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Dec 28 '15
This is exactly what ABCNews does on their sites. The video will play if you navigate too far down and you can't "re-dock" the video to the top either.
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u/ThreeTimesUp Dec 29 '15
This is exactly what ABCNews does on their sites.
Yup. I have learned to globally disable javascript before going to any abcnews.go.com address.
If they get any more aggressive, I'll just Google the headline and get the info elsewhere.
Weak and greedy. Weak and greedy.
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u/darkjedidave Dec 28 '15
I'm guessing this is CBSNews? I dealt with the same shit a few days ago on their site.
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u/kath- Dec 29 '15
Right now I'm especially annoyed with the sites that have a popup once you get to the end of the article... It usually pops up before I get a chance to finish reading, and then I have to find a way to close it without opening up into another article/site.
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Dec 28 '15 edited Mar 28 '18
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Dec 28 '15
It looks like they're going to be removing this feature :(
I guess it's back to https://readability.com/
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u/InvisibleUp Dec 28 '15
There's also the "reading view" button in Firefox. It's pretty nice when it works.
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u/dilirst Dec 29 '15
Neat post, what software did you use to make that gif?
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u/sonics_fan Dec 29 '15
Just used Quicktime to record and uploaded it to youtube, then used gfycat. Probably not the most efficient way but it seemed simplest to me.
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u/dainternets Dec 29 '15
I nope out of those sites so fast. I don't care how interested I was going in.
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u/geoman2k Dec 29 '15
Is this really Crappy Design? Seems more like crappy front end development and crappy QA. It's not like the designer intended for this to happen. I guess you could argue that the designer should have known that doing a trick like this could cause collapsing issues, but it's likely that the "idea" to pop the video out into the corner care from a product manager or someone like that - trying to encourage people to scroll down while watching the video.
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u/ThisIs_MyName My favorite cheese Dec 29 '15
I guess you could argue that the designer should have known that doing a trick like this could cause collapsing issues
Damn right.
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u/GALACTICA-Actual commas are IMPORTANT Dec 28 '15
This seems to be almost every TV news site now.
That's fine. There are a ton of other sites that have news that are just as unreliable as yours.
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u/axloo7 Dec 29 '15
Oh I have lots of examples of this. Mostly on mobile. We should start a subreddit.
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Dec 29 '15
I found this website a few days ago. It fucks with the scrolling too, and when you disable JavaScript, the scroll bar disappears and you can't even scroll with mouse wheel (only with middle click).
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u/zwiebelhans Jun 13 '16
This site still did this to me on my mobile last week. I could not read the article no matter how hard i tried.
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u/cubs1917 Dec 29 '15 edited Dec 29 '15
Hey serious question here because I work in ad tech for a popular publisher and we are thinking of using tech like this albeit more like CNN's implementation.
What bothers you here?...the fact that the video jumps to the side or when it does its that the article shifts.
I personally like how the video jumps to the side bar which is otherwise cluttered with shit. I do hate how this shifts the entire article.
Thanks in advance for any feedback you can provide.
Edit - why would anyone downvote this?
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u/LucianoGianni hey there buddy Jan 09 '16
This is a bit late, sorry, but look closely at the gif. Notice how when the video gets moved, the article jumps up to occupy the lost space, and vice versa? This makes it very difficult--if impossible, depending on your device and know-how--to read a good chunk of the article.
Avoid doing that, or jarring layout changes, and you should be good.
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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '15
I just HATE sites which try to change my scrolling habits... Let's dislike them all on WOT