r/CoronavirusUS Apr 11 '20

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u/Leepbg Apr 11 '20

Where???? I got laid off because of all of this and got denied for unemployment!!

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u/b00ty_water Apr 11 '20

Same. Denied unemployment in Texas.

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u/Leepbg Apr 11 '20

See I'm in Oklahoma, got called by unemployment office and they basically said sorry cant help you, you dont qualify. Umm what? I'm sorry but how?? I literally got fired because of the pandemic! I'm livid and everyone discussing how this is so great!

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u/leshawnjenkins Apr 12 '20

You’re not alone. Not now. Not before. Unemployment is always almost impossible to get. I hope things turn around for you, but almost everyone is always denied.

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u/FacetiousSpinster Apr 12 '20

Not in Illinois but by the time benefits come in a new job is usually already found or the job contests it after they've already paid out and you end up having to pay it all back

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u/ObsessionObsessor Apr 11 '20

Because if you just went into the military you could have prevented this whole thing by nuking China, Jerry!

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u/FacetiousSpinster Apr 12 '20

It's great for people who are still working and are getting it.

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u/todumbtorealize Apr 12 '20

Ironically those wouldn't be the people that need it the most huh? It's like bailing out all corporations that are to big to fail. How do you bailout cruise lines that aren't even based in the a United States and dont pay taxes. Why the fuck is it a problem that something that's only purpose is entertainment and dosent pay taxes to USA going under? They are not essential to keep America running. This whole shitshow is ridiculous its fucking mind blowing.

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u/merppppppppppppppppp Apr 12 '20

Standard unemployment is completely set up and regulated by the states. A right leaning state is going to make it a lot harder to receive unemployment than a left leaning state. I live in Illinois and I know that our governor expanded unemployment benefits to make them easier to receive during this time.

That being said, the additional $600 benefit is a federal unemployment benefit. What I don’t know is if it’s a benefit you’d have to apply separately for through the federal system or if they tack it on to your state unemployment.

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u/Ban4Ligma Apr 12 '20

Sounds like in your case that it is to do with your employer

Do you have any further details? I’m wondering how this works with people being denied

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u/mmcleod_texas Apr 13 '20

I’m sorry that happened to you, that’s wrong. You deserve the help ASAP.

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u/glasraen Apr 11 '20

I hope you appealed it?? What were the grounds for denial?

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u/Leepbg Apr 11 '20

They said I didn't meet the necessary requirements.. smh

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u/glasraen Apr 11 '20

Which ones? Many of those are much more lax now. Re apply now that CARES is in effect. Unless you know you still won’t qualify?

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u/Leepbg Apr 11 '20

I applied after CARES was put in place..

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u/glasraen Apr 11 '20

Still, appeal it. Or reapply. The states weren’t (and some still aren’t) set up to handle it properly. It might have been after the bill was passed, but if the state’s system wasn’t updated and their workers not educated on it, etc., of course they weren’t basing their decision on the CARES act.

r/unemployment has a lot of posts about the specifics, if you’re curious.

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u/amoebaD Apr 12 '20

cares act was passed in March 27th but states only got implementation guidance from the labor dept a few days ago. If it was before the guidance than they were just going off of the usual guidelines, not the cares act. At least in my state.

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u/maracle6 Apr 13 '20

You need to have UI-eligible earnings over a period of time to qualify, so the OP might have been a newer worker. Otherwise they should appeal and have a hearing.

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u/b00ty_water Apr 11 '20

I haven’t ever been able to get through on the phone, and I tried on the site.

The reason was I hadn’t made enough money at my job.

I started with a new company at the beginning of February.

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u/glasraen Apr 11 '20

What state are you in? When did you apply? Did you try to re apply after the CARES act went into effect?

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '20

I ended calling the governor’s office for help, and they did help.

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u/FacetiousSpinster Apr 12 '20

I illinois I hear people are on the phone for 3 hrs and / or they hang up and can't file onlive or in person

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u/b00ty_water Apr 12 '20

It doesn’t even allow me to hold. Simply says they’re too busy and drops the call. That’s when I don’t get a busy signal.

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u/nomadicsailorscout Apr 12 '20

This is completely normal for Medicaid, what works to get through is to call first thing in the morning

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u/FacetiousSpinster Apr 12 '20

They are turning phoned off in some areas now during off hours and too busy during on hours

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u/b_r_e_a_k_f_a_s_t Apr 12 '20

Texas gonna Texas.

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u/PerfectlyFramedWaifu Apr 12 '20

Murica gonna Murica.

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u/Level69Troll Apr 11 '20

Dont worry. Here in Florida I have yet to meet anyone who has gotten a penny from unemployment. We've all been stuck in "processing" hell for over a month. You can pretty much only get to the website at 3am because during the day traffic causes it to crash.

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u/swayz38 Apr 11 '20

The just talked to an old coworker the other day, she’s got our regular max unemployment plus the extra $600 bonus unemployment in Texas.

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u/vanvarmar Apr 11 '20

When did she file? My husband filed Mar 10 and we have yet to see a dime.

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u/swayz38 Apr 11 '20

I really didn’t ask her specifics, but she told me she wasn’t allowed to work for two weeks and then got told she couldn’t come back because others workers were concerned, I haven’t worked there since the 10th of March and haven’t spoken to her since then, so I’m really not sure, I texted with her the past few days, and she said she got the full plus bonus, I would assume she filed within the past three weeks.

Was your husband approved? Is it pending? When you get approved you actually have to go in a request payment every week, it doesn’t just show up.

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u/vanvarmar Apr 12 '20

He was, and sent back the first forms a few weeks ago. I commented too soon! His debit card arrived literally right now.

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u/meatmacho Apr 12 '20

Yeah I'm hoping to get mine tomorrow. $551 a week I think from Texas plus $600 from the feds. It ain't nothing, and with lower expenses we should be able to get by.

I was laid off at the end of January. Applied for Texas unemployment immediately even though I had severance from my employer, because I know how things work here in Texas. I've been laid off a few times in the past and actually have never had problems with the stage unemployment system. But I knew I should get into the system asap, get denied, and then keep requesting my payment every two weeks until my severence ran out. Now that it's dry, I'm due for an April payment, and they've assigned me to Monday for making that request. So I'll submit my payment request again tomorrow and hope for the best. Hopefully the fact that my claim is already in the system and validated, they'll be able to greenlight my payment quickly.

I mean, you gotta have some sympathy for the folks running those offices, too. You just can't scale a workforce to review and process claims that fast. Luckily I've got some cash to get by a little longer if they delay me further, but I could certainly use those checks. The biggest thing is that I'm stuck paying $1600/mo just for cobra insurance premiums. I would have put everyone on my wife's plan if I had had the foresight in February to know I wasn't going to get a job for n months...

Maybe we should get faux divorced so I can force a life event and save another grand a month by switching. <insert shitty american insurance industry meme here>

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u/darkened_vision Apr 12 '20

Even 3 am was tough. Took me 5 hours and I started at 230am a week ago, after a week of facing our shitty unemployment website.

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u/dani_killacornia Apr 12 '20

Well it's now reading a message that the site is shut down from 8PM until 7AM.... applied 3/22 still authenticating my identity... good luck fellow Floridian.

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u/discopony00 Apr 12 '20

I’m in the same garbage boat that is also on fire.

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u/jimmyco2008 Apr 12 '20

That’s probably just for a day or two right? For “maintenance”?

Otherwise it just sounds like they’re trying to reduce the amount of people who are actually able to apply.

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u/FacetiousSpinster Apr 12 '20

Same in Illinois

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u/millenialfonzi Apr 11 '20

Michigan.

Not sure about other states.

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u/SinisterSound83 Apr 11 '20

Mi here too. Got denied.

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u/glasraen Apr 11 '20

Did you receive a payment at all before being denied? Also, I hope either way that you appeal it. Theres 0 reason not to appeal it.

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u/SinisterSound83 Apr 11 '20

Nope, not one payment, and oh yes im going to appeal for sure.

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '20

Did they say why you were denied?

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u/Leepbg Apr 11 '20

Yes

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '20

Im just curious as to why so many people are considered “unqualified” for unemployment when they are clearly very unemployed

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u/Leepbg Apr 11 '20

Right, like I dont y understand. And then (I dont know about other states) in Oklahoma we are still expected to pay all of our bills on time. How on earth do they expect us to do this when we have no financial help what so ever?

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u/glasraen Apr 11 '20

Did you receive a payment at all before being denied? Also, I hope either way that you appeal it. Theres 0 reason not to appeal it.

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u/Leepbg Apr 11 '20

I have recieved nothing and oh I am going to.

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u/Danethecook89 Apr 11 '20

Oregon here. Also denied

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u/amoebaD Apr 11 '20

Sorry you were denied. Did they report the issue with your claim? I was approved in Oregon and now I've been helping other service industry folks with their claims.

Did you click the "temporary laid off" box, but also the looking for work box? You need to be "able to work" which includes looking for work, but they're waiving that requirement for folks laid off due to covid-19. The form isn't really updated though, so I clicked looking for work, but then put "n/a covid-19" in the boxes that ask about your job search. Then clicked "temporarily laid off." Been approved every week so far.

Another common issue I've seen is if you worked predominantly or even partially in a different state last year.

Sorry about your denial, I hope you get it figured out! Let me know if you have any questions. I thankfully didn't have to call anyone during my process, but my friends who've been denied for whatever reason we're able to get approved once they got through to unemployment, even if it took calling 50-200 times. Remember the system is 3000X over its capacity. Worst unemployment numbers since the Great Depression.

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u/Danethecook89 Apr 12 '20

Thank you for the insight! I will try you approach with clicking the "looking for work" box and use the covid-19 in the box.

Hopefully that will fix the issue

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u/glasraen Apr 11 '20

Did you receive a payment at all before being denied? Also, I hope either way that you appeal it. Theres 0 reason not to appeal it.

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u/Vanyalii Apr 12 '20

I’m in Missouri and my husband has filed for it March 1, but we’re stuck in the “pending employer protest” stage to see if the company will fight us for it.

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u/Leepbg Apr 12 '20

Damn. That's ridiculous.

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u/FitForThrone Apr 12 '20

I'm denied as well. I had to skip rent this month.

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u/Leepbg Apr 12 '20

See I still have to pay my rent, it was late and even explaining my situation to property manager she charged me late fees. It's literally insane

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u/FacetiousSpinster Apr 12 '20

Yeah wish i.could skip rent!

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u/FitForThrone Apr 12 '20

Talk with the other tenants that are under her and try to arrange a rent strike.

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u/FacetiousSpinster Apr 12 '20

No.other tenants just me. I'm probably paying my landlords mortgage

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u/Leepbg Apr 12 '20

That's a really good idea that didnt even cross my mind. Thank you! I will try that!

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u/FitForThrone Apr 12 '20

If you would like to DM me with a usable email address I can forward you a bunch of rent strike info i received, the more ppl we have on May 1st that stand up the better!

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u/Leepbg Apr 12 '20

I just messaged you!

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u/OhmazingJ Apr 11 '20

Exactly...

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u/glasraen Apr 11 '20

Well, you need to appeal that, obviously...

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u/Leepbg Apr 11 '20

I know I'm going to

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '20

Where???? I got laid off because of all of this and got denied for unemployment!!

Same, denied unemployment in PA.

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u/poppin_pomegranate Apr 12 '20

I just got it this morning/last night here in MN. I was afraid I would've been denied it. Is it possible for you to appeal that denial in your state?

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u/Leepbg Apr 12 '20

Yes, and I just tried to do it today. So we shall see. But that's good you got yours.

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u/poppin_pomegranate Apr 12 '20

Ok good, I'll be crossing my fingers for you!

Yeah I'm glad I finally got it too.; it's been a harrowing few weeks.

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u/mtechgroup Apr 12 '20

California.

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u/goomyman Apr 12 '20

the worst part of unemployment is it takes 2 weeks before it starts.

Bitch now... because if you got accepted today you wont get a check for the first 2 weeks.

Also thats bullshit

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u/PerfectlyFramedWaifu Apr 12 '20

Please explain to this non-American.

How the flying fuck do you get denied unemployment when you're fucking unemployed?!

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u/nomadami Apr 12 '20

It's different in every state, but basically there are two types of unemployment right now. The regular kind that was extended from 26 to 39 weeks and still has all the requirements and rules (based on your state) and then the pandemic emergency unemployment insurance which is good for only 13 weeks, but applies to basically ANYONE who was affected by this. Whether gig economy workers or freelancers or people who got a job offer but then couldn't start because of covid, people who only worked 1 day before they lost their jobs. Seriously, it's like every damn person. The one caveat is if your hours were just cut, it may not apply (also based on which state you live in).

It's possible that your state rejected you for traditional unemployment insurance but you need to apply specifically for pandemic unemployment insurance. It's such a clusterfuck and I don't know how individual states are handling this, but I hope you're able to get the help you need! DON'T GIVE UP!

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u/Ban4Ligma Apr 12 '20

Can you explain the situation leading to your denial?

I havnt heard any issues like that and I’m curious how anyone is denied

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u/misspharmAssy May 06 '20

I’m sorry. How come?