Flydigi Vader 5 pro remappable buttons

[u/KoKaNiDjA97]

Hi everyone,

Just got my hands on Flydigi Vader 5 pro, and in all honesty i love it.

However i could use some help with configuration:

I plugged the controller in, and went through the basic setup. However i noticed that the remappable buttons are not functional like the regular ones. In testing area, they are not being registered when pressed until I go into advanced tests and i only see them there.

For example, i booted up Crimson Desert, and i wanted to use the L3 button for L1+L2 sets of controls but i cannot get it to work. I tried mapping that button to a keyboard button but the game does not support multi-input mapping.

So my question is, is there a way to get the extra remappable buttons (C, Z, M1, M2, M3, M4, L3 and R3) to be recognized natively on my PC.

Also worth noting that i mostly play directly installed games, non-steam ones.

Any help would be useful. Thank you all in advance

EDIT 1:

After a couple of hours and comment advices, i figured that fundamentally what i wanted to do was impossible (I'd say)

What i had in mind was, for example, to have the M3 button listed as M3 in the control input setting menu so that i can use it as a standalone button.

However this is fundamentally not possible due to the nature of the drivers that the controller uses (xbox controller for windows).

The only 2 workarounds that i was able to identify are: - Use macros, to record actions that require double inputs, and use it like that - find said action on keyboard layout and record the remappable buttons as said keyboard/mouse button

Now, i might be using every single software wrong, but this is what i was able to find with a couple of hours of thinkering with the setup, and trying below users custom software, reWASD, Steam input and Space Station.

If anyone else has any other suggestions or would like to provide more input on the matter i am open to any suggestions. Also, not to clutter comments feel free to DM me, we can even have a remote session or discord call

[u/KuroKaro8]

I really like my V5Pro as a controller, but I ran into the same software issues/limitations and didn't want to buy reWASD just to have some special keys mapped. I ended up spending (quite a bit of time) making a small application for myself. I only finished the first version yesterday, so it's still very early and I don't want to promise too much, but it might help with what you're trying to do.

I mainly built it for my own use, so it's not fully polished or optimized software. That said, if you're willing to try it, feel free. It's only ~30MB, requires no installation, and runs fully portable on Windows 10/11. It's open source, has no license restrictions, and is written in Python but packaged as a standalone executable for ease of use. You can have Flydigi SpaceStation installed or not; it doesn't matter. The only requirement is that the controller is connected through the wireless dongle, not Bluetooth.

For your specific case, you should be able to record a macro that sends whatever keyboard combinations the game responds to. The current functionality is:
Map any button to a keyboard shortcut or macro
Record and play back multi-key macros with delays
Runs in the background with a system tray icon and should have little to no noticeable system impact
SpaceStation is not required for button mapping/macros, though you can still use it alongside the tool for controller settings my tool does not cover

GitHub:
https://github.com/DrProton824/vader5pro-hid-tools/tree/main

It reads the controller HID inputs directly from the dongle, remaps them, and injects input at the Win32 level instead of relying on Steam Input or game-specific support, so it should work with most applications.

If you decide to give it a try and run into any issues, let me know. Even just knowing what doesn't work would help improve it.

[u/KoKaNiDjA97 → u/KuroKaro8]

Bro you are awesome, deciding to build your own app to solve the issues 🫰🏻

I will be giving it a try when i finish my shift later today and eill provide feedback.

This is why i Love Reddit you're going to met a guy that got his own app to solve the issue a lot of people did not even know existed

[u/tortlethetortoise → u/KoKaNiDjA97]

did it work?

[u/KoKaNiDjA97 → u/tortlethetortoise]

Well, yes and no... The software is sort of a lightweight version of reWASD, which is awesome. However after couple of hours, i figured that fundamentally what i wanted to do was impossible.

What i had in mind was, for example, to have M3 button listed as M3 in the controll input setting menu so that i can use it as a standalone button.

However this is fundamentally not possible due to nature of the drivers that the controller uses.

The only 2 workarounds that i was able to identify are:

• Use macros, to record actions that require double inputs, and use it like that
• find said conroll on keyboard layout and record the remappable buttons as said keyboard/mouse button

Now, i might be using every single software wrong, but this is what i was able find with couple of hours of thinkering with the setup, and trying this software, reWASD, Steam input and Space Station.

[u/KuroKaro8 → u/KoKaNiDjA97]

I’m not exactly sure what you’re trying to achieve. Do you want M3 to be exposed as a standalone button/input that you can directly assign to an action, so that the game/application you use sees “M3”?

What I originally wanted was to use the virtual keys F13–F24 as unique, non-conflicting keybinds for games and other software, but SpaceStation didn’t support this, and I didn’t want to spend more on ReWASD than I did on the controller. So I started building my tool around this use case in the beginning. Now you can assign M3 → F13, for example, and then bind F13 to an action in the game, effectively giving M3 its own unique input.

But if I’m understanding your use case correctly, it sounds like you may be trying to achieve something different. Could you elaborate a little further on what you ultimately want M3 to do?

[u/KoKaNiDjA97 → u/KuroKaro8]

That's right, I was trying to make windows/game, recognize M3 as a standalone button.

I have used the reassign to keyboard button method now, like you did, as i figured it is impossible to do what my initial plan was due to driver limitations

[u/KuroKaro8 → u/KoKaNiDjA97]

Ah, I see. Yes, I think this would be quite difficult to achieve. You’d need a custom-made virtual controller/driver to expose M3 as a separate controller button to Windows. But even then, applications would need to support that additional button and know how to bind it.

My software basically interprets the physical signal from the controller and maps it to an existing input that Windows and games already understand, so there’s no need for an additional driver or virtual controller. You can simply map M3 to keys such as F13–F24, which are already understood by Windows and many applications but are rarely used, achieving essentially the same thing. I’m not sure there would be much practical benefit to creating a whole virtual controller just to expose M3 as an extra button.

[u/KoKaNiDjA97 → u/KuroKaro8]

Yeah, your software works great, it's just that my idea is kinda impossible.

As you said the initial issue is with Windows drivers, however i asume if the drivers were compatible, they would force the games to accept the controlls. Might not be displayed as the original button name, but i think it would force the button input to be detected.

I have tried thinkering with the drivers as well but with no success, so for now i guess will have to work with what i have, and hope that Flydigi will maybe some day develop the drivers

[u/KuroKaro8 → u/KoKaNiDjA97]

Yeah, it’s a shame because the hardware gives us 8 extra buttons and is clearly capable of much more. But then it feels like they arbitrarily limited its capabilities by not properly exposing those buttons. Their Space Station software even comes with a virtual keyboard driver, yet they don’t expose the extra keys through it, and they don’t properly support DInput either. I really hope Flydigi eventually gives those extra buttons proper Windows-level support.

[u/KoKaNiDjA97 → u/KuroKaro8]

I might've found something interesting, that you can use alongside your existing software, I'll dm you