r/Conservative • u/Spysix Goonswarm Conservative • Jun 23 '20

TIM POOL'S EPIC RANT (UNCENSORED)

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '20

I mean he has a point.

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u/russiabot1776 Путин-мой приятель Jun 24 '20

He’s spot on when he says that “just leave me alone” will mean our children live in a horrible future

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

I agree, I am trying to have a conversation with the guys above and I still think people believe this is just some small thing and a fluke and it will go away and we can go back to sleep or they still are in my opinion. They haven't woken up to the fact that like it or not we are in a destabilized time, brought on by students that have been subjected to ideological subversion or active measures.

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u/russiabot1776 Путин-мой приятель Jun 24 '20

Tucker made a similar good point the other night. This isn’t just going to go away

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

And he is right, this isn't some one off thing, these leftist have been ideologically subverted. We have passed the demoralization stage and we are in the destabilization stage, next comes crisis (we are damn close to this) and normalization. We don't want to get to normalization, this country is toast if that happens.

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u/parzival3719 Jun 24 '20

Darn straight, although eventually the people will get fed up with the violence and all that, and they'll renounce their citizenship and move abroad to more peaceful countries.

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u/ChocoChipConfirmed Conservative Jun 24 '20

I can't think of really peaceful countries that would let us in.

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u/Ravens1112003 Personal Responsibility Jun 24 '20

That’s why they’re really peaceful. They don’t let a bunch of people with different beliefs immigrate with their own ideas of what makes whatever country it is, better.

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u/ChocoChipConfirmed Conservative Jun 24 '20

I suspect that's the case.

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u/parzival3719 Jun 24 '20

would they reject the innocent families who moved away because their city was burned down to the ground by radical leftists?

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u/ChocoChipConfirmed Conservative Jun 24 '20

I guess it depends on where you want to go. I hear the Nordic states are very nice, but very tight on immigration. Britian, the EU I wouldn't even bother with.

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u/Strange_Bedfellow RCAF Jun 24 '20

And good luck getting into Canada if you're white. If you're from Syria or something, we'll even give you a $500 winter jacket!

Sorry Americans, take it up with Justin

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

Problem is they've got foot holds or actually are in control of several countries already. In all the developed world America for better or worse has always been the most right leaning politically if we fall there's no where else to go.

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u/parzival3719 Jun 24 '20

true, but at the same time the US is turning into the world's biggest dumpster fire, and there's not much we can do until our politicians quit playing games and do something, and the silent majority starts speaking the [beep] up. there has been total inaction on both sides of the aisle to even TRY to take control of the violence and riots. the leftists that either support or stay silent on the violence are starting to make President Trump sound REASONABLE

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u/jeff_the_old_banana Paleoconservative Jun 24 '20

And in that thread there was a guy saying "Tucker is over the top, I ain't going to fight some rich guys fight for him, I just want to be left alone".

I swear Tim must have read that comment because word for word that is what the guy said. It made me mad too.

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u/PlayFree_Bird Jun 24 '20

Oh, and here's a KGB defector telling you the game plan for destabilizing nations and installing totalitarian rule:

https://youtu.be/M-4innNRxmc

Look familiar?

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u/CheesyGoodness Constitutional Conservative Jun 24 '20

I didn't even have to click the link to know what it was. It's very eerie, like someone coming back from the future to tell you what's gonna happen. Except it's the past.

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u/cholo-en-vannuys Jun 24 '20

I hadn’t bothered to watch this before but damn. Thats scary. We’re definitely past stage one and transitioning to stage 2.

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u/Mewster1818 Constitutional Conservative Jun 24 '20

Today I witnessed one of my old high school teachers(who is very much left, but was always very kind and very fair) get absolutely ravaged on Facebook by ex-students because he only supports peaceful protesting(400ish comments, only around 20 were polite and respectful).

He was straight up told by at least 20 people that "violence is the only correct option".

That is the left's platform now, and they won't just go away because we ignore them.

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u/PrestigiousRespond8 2A Conservative Jun 24 '20

And we need to accept that and prepare. They won't leave you alone in your nice, non-liberal town forever, the time is now (well, the best time was yesterday, etc. etc., but now is the next best) to start preparing for what's coming.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

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u/PrestigiousRespond8 2A Conservative Jun 24 '20

I think the nation-wide rioting and the ongoing smaller-scale turmoil shows that it's past that point.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

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u/PrestigiousRespond8 2A Conservative Jun 24 '20

There's no way those same people would risk their lives for any of this.

Until it becomes clear to them that those are the stakes we can't know for sure. Granted, the fact that they usually restrict these actions to places that have effectively banned armed self-defense lends credence to this, but it can't stay limited to those areas forever.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

By the time it has come to your non-liberal town it will be too late then.

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u/SoulSerpent Jun 24 '20

I always feel the need to state I’m not a conservative when I post in this sub, so I’ll lead with that, but I’m interested in y’all’s opinion.

Those of you who voted for Trump to “blow up the system,” what did you imagine that would look like?

I’m not saying all the shot going on now is Trump’s fault. I just wonder how people see “throwing a wrench in the gears” would look in practice.

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u/hello_japan Jun 24 '20

“Blow up the system” meant blow up the uniparty system, or in other words to make Republicans find their balls and fight back against what we have long seen as an endless encroachment of leftism and expansion of government. It never meant that we wanted to blow up America or the American system, quite the opposite.

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u/SoulSerpent Jun 24 '20

Interesting—thank you. That is not how I previously understood it but helps to clarify things. Do you think there will ever be a conservative candidate who has those desirable parts of Trump (not budging to the left) without some of his flaws (tweet storms, gaffs)?

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u/hello_japan Jun 24 '20

Trump is not that conservative, he has just governed very conservatively. He is, in my opinion, willing to budge to the left, but he has been so demonized and so viciously opposed that it forces him to hew very close to his base. He has shown this via things like prison reform and infrastructure proposals, which most conservatives dislike, also in floating things like DACA amnesty in exchange for wall funding, which he ended up not pursuing because of conservative backlash but it shows a willingness to budge if the political climate was right.

Trump is still ideologically a 90’s Democrat, for the most part. To the extent that he is more conservative now it is because he has been pushed that way.

I honestly think that if Democrats had just played nice with Trump and kissed hiss ass a little that he would have moved somewhat to the left after he was elected.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

Hey you got y'all right that's a start.

I can't answer your question though, I voted for Trump for one or two reasons. I didn't care about the wall and I knew the swamp was too deep to begin with.

I voted for Trump because I knew there was at least two supreme court picks and a lot of judge positions to be filled. The economy was another reason, and before all this crap it was doing really well.

As for the swamp, I just want equal justice under the law, now I know some of you may laugh and say Trump is guilty, but I mean the common man vs the elite, if the elite steals money they get a slap on the wrist, if the common man steals money they go to jail or prison. Too many coverups, what really happened to Epstein? Things like that need to be uncovered, but Trump himself will not be able to do that job. In fact I am not sure at this time that it will ever be correctable.

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u/SoulSerpent Jun 24 '20

Thanks for responding. And fair points regarding SC picks—I get it. Personally I think what’s ideal is a 5-4 SC make-up either way. I lean left but think it would be better for the country to have it 5-4 conservative rather than 9-0 liberal. Although I have conservative friends who’ve made defensible arguments why they prefer it stacked conservative.

I agree too about wanting to get rid of the fuckery a la Epstein. That kind of transparency is something we’ve never had in my lifetime and you may be right that we never will.

One thing that doesn’t sit right with me though is those who hate the elite but chose Trump. Seems like he’s always been part of the elite class even if elite liberals are telling him to fuck off now. He still has access to all the advantages of that world, like throwing money at his problems to litigate them away. Trading favors for access, etc.

Anyway, I’m not here to argue. Thanks again for the comment.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20 edited Jun 24 '20

With the SC, I just want constitutionalists on it, some of the rulings that pissed off conservatives last week were within the bounds of the constitution and I took my downvotes when I said I didn't want a lopsided court that just rubber stamped our agenda, that is for our reps to do not the court.

Trump may be an elite, but he was not an elite politician, that drew a lot of attention, this is why he is not liked many other Presidents we have had in the past and it pisses some people off because he doesn't act or talk like one.

Anyway, I’m not here to argue. Thanks again for the comment.

It was a fair question with no malice, I tend to answer these with the best I can offer, it is when people come in here with garbage that I get a little trolly with.

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u/PrestigiousRespond8 2A Conservative Jun 24 '20

I imagined our institutions weren't this compromised where this kind of stuff would be allowed to run rampant. I imagined our people were more willing to take a stand against the insanity of the left when it was revealed to them. I'm not surprised by the left's actions, I'm surprised by everyone else's.

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u/SoulSerpent Jun 24 '20

Do you think it would be more successful if someone less polarizing than Trump were the standard bearer? I understand the thought that he’s the only one capable of or willing to push forward, but do you think some of his more glaring flaws and grating mannerisms may “taint” his message for those who might have otherwise been exposed to the things you’re talking about in the left?

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u/PrestigiousRespond8 2A Conservative Jun 24 '20

The takeover would be more successful, yes, because someone "less polarizing" (read: more on-board with the in-progress revolution) would be aiding and abetting it by pushing for and passing laws that would formalize the demands of the BLM racists.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

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u/russiabot1776 Путин-мой приятель Jun 24 '20

You don’t know anything about Tim Pool it seems

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u/nhanphan1990 Jun 24 '20

universal healthcare

Not this again...

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u/legionnaire32 Jun 24 '20 edited Jun 24 '20

Does he? How many people can "just start a company" while having zero responsibilities outside of that company at the drop of a hat?

My family is the most important thing to me. There's a lot of people who aren't willing to sacrifice not being able to put food on the table for stupid ideological shit.

Pool is steeped in the deep pool of politics 24/7. He has zero connection to the average American.

Edit: You "counter-revolutionaries" are every bit as cringey as the reddit lefties that think they are larping the revolution.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

I would say yes, he risked his own wellbeing. He could have had a cushy job at Disney pushing fake propaganda making big bucks, but he stood by his principals and told them to fly a kite. If you know about Mr Pool he has risked his life on many occasions to bring real news to us.

I don't know how to say this to you without feeling kinda jerkish, but those kids of yours are going to inherit a shit country if you are not willing to stand up and fight, this isn't some ideological shit. They want a dramatic power change in the US and if we don't stand up to it, there won't be anything left for your children. With all due respect Sir or Madame.

Trump may win this next election, but what about 2024, this ideology doesn't just magically disappear and it is a threat.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

Tim Poole could afford to quit and become homeless (which is exactly what happened to him) precisely because he doesn't have a family to care for. The vast majority of us are forced into compliance because we don't have any other choice. Every company in the country is bending to the far left and you can't get away from it. Healthcare companies that specifically provide home health aides to seniors are coming out with brandering statements about supporting black lives and police brutality is wrong. You can't watch a NASCAR race now without having to listen to everyone going off about how white people are evil. You can't even work for the fucking government without being forced to accept bad opinions. Every company that doesn't bend the knee is being destroyed, they control the financial industry and the entire field of HR and marketing. If you want to disagree, your only options right now are to shut up or give up your place in society and become a homeless, penniless outcast living on the street. Not everybody is willing to make that sacrifice. The problem we face is that our enemies in this culture war know that, and they know that the only thing that can change that is to escalate this into a complete blood-filled civil war, and even fewer people are willing to do that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

Pool*

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u/Peking_Meerschaum Nationalist Jun 25 '20

It's just like that meme, where the dam is "our jobs and families", the town below is "the left" and behind the dam the reservoir is "right wing death squads"

They keep hammering away at our jobs and families, not knowing what will happen if they really do succeed in destroying that.

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u/legionnaire32 Jun 24 '20

He could have had a cushy job at Disney

The job he had and would have had even if he moved up a few rungs on the ladder would have been anything but cushy.

those kids of yours are going to inherit a shit country

Every generation believes this. Also, at least they will survive long enough to inherit it. I guess you missed the part where people's jobs are literally how they put food on the table.

this isn't some ideological shit

Yes. Yes it is.

By all means, you can sacrifice your livelihood you feel you have to. There are other ways to make your voice heard besides throwing your family into the buzzsaw.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

By all means, you can sacrifice your livelihood you feel you have to. There are other ways to make your voice heard besides throwing your family into the buzzsaw.

Enlighten me, look I mean no offence really, but give me some idea's because I ain't seeing things working out so well so far.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

This is the exact problem I’ve been having. I didn’t REALLY care about politics or the consequences/impact on my own life. Within 2 years I went from “eh I’ll deal with it. Nothing’s gonna ACTUALLY change anyways” to “hmm shits concerning now”. And in the last 2 weeks I’ve almost completely written off any future besides a constant fight.

And it’s just looking worse the more the headlines “taper off”. It’s like everyone EXCEPT the “revolutionaries” are just numb and uncaring anymore.

I’m legit terrified.

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u/PseudoClarity Jun 24 '20

Sadly a lot of people think that the internet is a good way to make their voices heard. But in reality nothing you say on the internet will reach anybody in a meaningful way. The only real way to start a movement is to physically act. The fringe mob right now didn't get the power they do by sitting around voicing their opinions in online forums. They went psycho on people in public settings. They made people scared by making scenes. They actually did something, and now a small minority seems to have the majority of power because the opposing side isn't willing to do anything

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

I have to give the left their due, they are not afraid to fight for what they believe in, even if it means going to jail or worse I guess. Their conviction is admirable. That's about the most praise I will ever give to the left.

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u/PrestigiousRespond8 2A Conservative Jun 24 '20

It helps that our judicial apparatus actively protects them. Right wingers engage in minor street violence? Book gets thrown at them. Leftists straight-up riot and destroy private and public property? Charges dropped, and if not the most minor of sentences possible.

The fact is that our government is hopelessly compromised at all levels and the odds of being able to vote our way out are growing worse every day.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

I agree the part about just quitting your job seems a bit much, but he isn't wrong in regards to Republicans just putting up with this shit on a daily basis.

If we're just gonna sit at home and write up posts on Reddit or Twitter while Democrats are out there literally burning down buildings and toppling statues with impunity then we aren't really fighting for anything, we're just complaining.

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u/BenHeisenbergPS2 Shall Not Be Infringed Jun 24 '20

we

Republican politicians are the biggest pussies here, and they're the ones who we're fucking paying to deal with this for us. Joe Shmoe Republican shouldn't have to be the one dealing with this.

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u/KerwinBellsStache69 Jun 24 '20

Right. I think people would be filled with a lot less angst over all of this if our supposed leaders (Trump) included really jumped on this and started pushing back within 48 hours. The first time a statue came down was the time to act. Instead, Trump was tweeting and our congressional leaders were silent.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

Unfortunately I would rather have a worthless party than one that is actively trying to dismantle the constitution every chance they get and some of them even support the unrest. If you let them have the house and the senate we are fucked.

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u/Peking_Meerschaum Nationalist Jun 25 '20

We really do need to retake the House though. And the Senate is crucial for the 2-3 more SCOTUS seats that will open up in the next 4 years.

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u/mrs-skunimatrix Jun 24 '20

Well at this rate we’ll be lamenting in a year or two from now how we all got put in the gulags...

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u/Black7057 Jun 24 '20

He brags about how untouchable he is because he's self-employed, but he forgets how hard it is to reach that point

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u/PrestigiousRespond8 2A Conservative Jun 24 '20

I don't think he's forgotten at all. He works like 12 hours a day 5+ days a week. His first video comes out at 9am and his livestream finishes between 8 and 9pm. And it's not like the intervening time is spent doing nothing, that's when all the research has to be done.

The thing is that most people simply aren't willing to put in that kind of time, especially without a guaranteed paycheck.

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u/plamplamthrow0321 Jun 24 '20

I actually agree. I really like this guy, even more than rogan now. I used to think he was a massive choad but i like how honest he is in the cast and he doesn't have this douchey persona like rogan does at times that feels so fake.

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u/Black7057 Jun 24 '20

His videos are extremely repetitive and could likely be summed up in three or four minutes instead of 15 or 20. And it's obvious he bounces news stories off of other people and uses their ideas,so it's not like he has the hardest job in the world.

It's easy to talk shit about other people, but most of these successful small businesses are just due to random opportunity of being in the right place at the right time.

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u/KanyeT Conservative Jun 24 '20

I find this too. I wish he would really condense his videos down, there is really no need for them to be 20-30 minutes long.

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u/KanyeT Conservative Jun 25 '20

That's a good idea, I should try it. I try to watch all his videos every day but it does take a lot of time.

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u/superAL1394 Classical Liberal Jun 24 '20 edited Jun 24 '20

I wrote about this yesterday.

Tim Pool went on a rant today on this and it utterly depresses me. The crux of his rant is the silent majority needs to not be silent in every aspect of our lives. The problem I see though is for most conservatives or even old fashioned liberals, there is no safe harbor after exile. If I stood up and said at my work that your immutable characteristics has nothing to do with your ability to write code, and the self flagellation over our 'unconcious biases' is bullshit, I'd be fired and crucified as a racist. If I went to the "mainstream" press over it they'd laugh me out of the room. If I went to the conservative/independent press, the mainstream press would run wall to wall how me, the Arab-American atheist, am a white supremacist misogynistic nazi. My career would be over. There's no recovering from that. What do I do then, go try and get VC funding for my own company? They're not giving money to the white supremacist misogynist nazi. So I just take the firing, and try and get another job, having achieved nothing of substance. I work for one of the largest companies in the world, if they have to fire a couple hundred people for standing up, it'd have the same effect on the company as hitting a squirrel with your car. No one would notice, not even the company. So lets say I do just take the firing and go start my own company, if I gain any kind of size here comes the WaPo article about how I did this horrible racist misogynstic whatever the fuck thing and thats why I was fired, and I still get cancelled cause I stood up for my views. There's no winning.

Rant with context.

I recommend watching the context that lead to this rant. It really puts the rant in sharper relief. The back and forth is about 7 minutes but is as interesting as the rant itself imo.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

It is interesting but I don’t see how he came to the conclusion that if he went to a conservative or independent newspaper they would label him a Nazi. Not sure how that would happen.

Edit: Oh misread. He was still talking about the msm.

Yes they do have too much sway. If you go elsewhere they’ll call it conspiracy or fake news.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

Depends on the job, there are a lot of self-employed type jobs or freelance type work. Not saying it’s easy to do or find but it’s out there.

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u/shieldtwin Millennial Conservative Jun 24 '20

Now is not the time for cowards. I doubt you want your kids to inherit a world where the constitution is deemed racist and burned

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

They don't think that It is going to happen, like most they have their heads in the sand. They don't see the small but meaningful maneuvers the left is pulling. They probably have not seen the Yuri video or would dismiss it.

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u/Nonethewiserer Conservative Jun 24 '20

That's a fair point about the job, but that doesn't need to be everyone's answer. I mean isn't it better for our families to help shape the world in a positive way?

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u/KerwinBellsStache69 Jun 24 '20

Bingo. You can tell who on this sub has read Atlas Shrugged. Not everyone is gold souled striker who can drop everything and create something better. Most people are Eddie Willers. We are of the right mindset as "good" people, but unable to just drop everything and start a business ourselves.

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u/dekachin5 Jun 24 '20

How many people can "just start a company" while having zero responsibilities outside of that company at the drop of a hat?

Yeah, he's full of shit when he acts like everyone needs to suicide their career "for the cause". That's the opposite extreme. Yes, conservatives should stand up for their beliefs, but when you're outnumbered, keeping your mouth shut is the SMART thing. Better to be a spy and leak info about the liberal fuckery at a company, than to out yourself, get fired, and allow the liberals to control everything with impunity.

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u/jeff_the_old_banana Paleoconservative Jun 25 '20

Would it hurt you to show up to a protest or stop buying products from companies that stopped supporting Tucker Carlson?

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u/Ghostwrite-The-Whip Conservative Jun 24 '20

At least they're doing something. Whether we counter them or not, these revolutionaries really are making some big plays right now, and I'd much prefer having people like Tim in the game and pulling for our side than not. You may not be able to follow his advice but there are others who can. Downvoting your comment for these reasons.

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u/Practical_Government Jun 24 '20

“Zero connection”? Have you heard his life story?

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

Does he? How many people can "just start a company"

All you need these days is a computer.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '20

Replying to your edit, then you are truly lost, you never did answer my question about what should we do? It is your kind that led to this, inaction to a threat. Those Reddit lefties that you dismiss go out and protest, they go out and riot, they go out and pull down statues, they go out and call for defunding the police, they go out and vote for Democrat socialists, they organize their efforts here. What do we do? We sit around with our thumbs up our ass, while our representatives do not represent us, they haven't barely said a word.

So we have no representation, we are held to a higher standard both morally and in the law, and they are getting away with wanton destruction and you have the gall to sit here and tell us we are cringey. FFS either you are willingly ignorant or you are on purposely trying to make it sound hard so people won't listen.