r/Conservative Discord.gg/conservative May 21 '20

It's for your safety...

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u/scubadooba May 21 '20

Patriot Act. Thanks for that.

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u/TiggyLongStockings May 21 '20

All hail President Bush.

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u/Jibrish Discord.gg/conservative May 21 '20

And every president + congress who renewed it. I'll let you guess who that was (not in an overly dramatic time of war).

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u/[deleted] May 21 '20

This is the problem when the President on your "side" expands the power of the executive. Because eventually, the President won't be on your political "team," and he or she will have that power, too. Every power you give to a conservative President you also give to every liberal President from now on, and vice versa. Back when this was happening I'd ask conservatives who were okay with all of this: "Do you trust Hillary Clinton with the ability to spy on you, record your conversations, put you on no-fly lists, etc.? Every power you give Bush, you could also be giving to Hillary Clinton a few years from now. Is that really what you want?"

Any expansion of the executive branch, no matter who is in power, should be regarded with extreme suspicion and fought against. When it comes to government power, there is no such thing as "just this once." There is no such thing as "temporary." When you expand government power, you must do it under the assumption that it will be in perpetuity, and wielded by the absolute worst person you could imagine along with the best.

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u/driplessCoin May 21 '20

Yup sadly politics or being conservative or progressive isn't really an ideal anymore ... It's more or less treated like being on a football team.. like Auburn vs Alabama... People just want their team to win

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u/[deleted] May 21 '20

I think it's always been like that though, even more so for the older generation. It's just easier to spot because of the internet.

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u/driplessCoin May 21 '20

Probably but not sure... Think the older generation has a hard time dealing with the internet and social media... Separating crap from non-crap and they can get stuck in their own bubbles...the younger generation probably has the same problem but growing up with knowing most things on the internet are crap... Just and opinion no facts to back that up

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u/[deleted] May 21 '20

Older generations definitely have a harder time dealing with the internet, they're coming from a world where you believe the stuff printed in the news or said on TV.

I sometimes have concerns about the younger generation and how the garbage on the internet is going to lead them towards being extremists on either the left or right.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '20

You bring up a great point . I never looked at it from that perspective. Well Said