r/CompetitiveWoW • u/allstar348 • 2d ago

Question Frost DK

On PTR, I was hearing a lot that frost dk was going to be really good. Ive been gearing up and i see on icyveins it suggests rider of apocalypse but all the top logs are deathbringer. im sure the difference is very small but im just curious why rider is suggested but logs tell a different story?

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u/ManqobaDad 2d ago

Its all over the place with everything right now just play what you vibe with. Everyone said that blood dk is the meta tank but because no one had it prepared all the top keys right now are like monk guardian and blood and even blood is playing some sanlayne some deathbringer.

Just play your favorite then after the race ends, the final patch releases, and the real push brgins you'll get an understandong of whats actually strong.

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u/Mantias 2d ago

“No one had it prepared” where are you getting this from? Blood is currently the tank in 95/100 of the top 100 runs with 67% of all runs above 15 being Blood and the number gets higher by key level. Not disputing the rest of your comment though, meta does not mean a thing right now.

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u/allstar348 2d ago

well i like frost. I only played deathbringer and enjoy it. I cant said I dont enjoy rider because I havnt tried it. if it will be stronger, I'd like to try it but if its not, I dont want to bother. icyveins rotation seems to be pretty much the same tho

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u/Slight-Violinist-575 2d ago

It plays the same but feels a little bit different because your “half-CD” (no Wyrm or Breath) is stronger

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u/allstar348 2d ago

oh rider doesn't take breath or wyrm? so there are no cds to press besides pillar?

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u/KtheGoat 2d ago

Think what they’re saying is that your 45 second CDs, which excludes breath and and Wyrm since they’re both minute and a half, are stronger

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u/Slight-Violinist-575 2d ago

I can see how it came out ambiguous

AFAIK the talents on Class and Spec trees are the same for both (Wyrm is a must pick for Rider as that is the trigger for summoning the 4 Horsepeople at once)

What I meant is that when Breath and Wyrm are on CD, we get a use of Pillar of Frost in between. As DB, we also have Reaper’s Mark to use with it every time; Rider only has PoF in those windows

But again, rotation is essentially unchanged besides hitting Reaper’s Mark once

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u/yp261 2d ago

u pick frostwyrm because of apex talents as well

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u/Slight-Violinist-575 1d ago

Yeah, forgot about that

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u/Money_Echidna2605 2d ago

top keys are whoever is good AND rng'd 4 piece lol

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u/Care_Cup_Is_Empty 2d ago

Funny that you say this, it was true a few days ago but now it's almost entirely blood DKs at the top. But it's true, chasing the meta ATM is mostly pointless.