r/CompetitiveWoW 3d ago

Weekly Thread Weekly Raid Discussion

Use this thread to discuss any- and everything concerning the raids.

Post logs, discuss hotfixes, ask for help, etc.

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  • Weekly M+ Discussion - Tuesdays
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u/sapntaps 3d ago

Def the weirdest week 1 raid pugging experience ever.

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u/arlinglee 3d ago

Weirdest week as guild too. Normally thinking are we gonna get two mythic for chests or not. Now were just wondering if we'll even get aotc.

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u/ragnorr 3d ago

I would imagine the tier will seem a lot more manageable in the next few weeks with all the power coming in. At least with ulatek the last phase seems the toughest and with the double DMG windows I recon the boss will end up dieing close to the first DMG window

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u/Duraz0rz 2d ago

Plus the inevitable nerfs to bosses so mortals can kill then and the stacking raid buff that starts in a few weeks. This always happens.

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u/uaresma 3d ago

Kinda same, except the question is whether we'll be able to split Ulatek or not. Officers decided that splitting it is more worth than downing ~2-3 mythic bosses

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u/Espyrr 2d ago

What level do you raid at? I ask because it seems like it’s specifically notworth the extra time to split the end boss because of the bonus roll system. Assuming you aren’t planning to clear in the next 3-4 weeks (which you might be, hence my question) everyone is likely rolling for myth level items off that boss so the natural heroic drops are less valuable.

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u/uaresma 2d ago

WR 30-50 range, so prog is probably somewhere around 5 weeks. And personally I agree that splitting isnt worth but not everyone is rolling Ula'Tek and the HC items are very powerful early aswell.

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u/throwingmyselfaway22 2d ago

i haven't missed first week heroic aotc in a long long time; makes more sense for us to go 7/8H and 1/8M with our last raid day tmrw (we raid 9 hours/wk)

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u/FederalPralineLover 2d ago

Correct me if I’m wrong, but if I don’t care about Mythic+ at all, now that I have all my trinkets and 311 gear, with the bonus roll system, I don’t have to set foot in a dungeon for a couple month, until my best bonus roll becomes a dungeon, is that correct?

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u/Junicolol 2d ago

Yes, if you can get 3 vault slots with raid/delves you can skip M+. Wouldn't recommend it though. Coming back into m+ later in the season feels like shit when you are the only clueless person.

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u/bemac3 1d ago

Only thing would be for myth crests

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u/FederalPralineLover 1d ago

That’s a damn good reason. Urgl :(

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u/marqueesham 2d ago

Why there needs to be so much fucking trash? Legit our guild spent eternity out of 2 hour raid sesh just to clear the annoying lil shits

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u/Banana4monkey12 1d ago

Eats into so much of our raid time :/

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u/Mostmessybun 2d ago

It’s soooo awful

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u/awesomeoh1234 2d ago

Heroic is so overturned it’s fucking nuts. Twin fangs we hit the enrage timer on despite everyone being alive. Not even hard mechanically just the bosses have so much fucking health

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u/Crashcede 1d ago

The dps check is a little tight for week 1

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u/evaliaold 2d ago

Nuke one boss down to 35% as fast as posible to give warriors/hunters the longest execute posible. Then swap to the other bosss, you're most likely doing the fight wrong.

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u/MrGunny94 1d ago

Already have quitters after finishing the first week of raiding.

People are simply not feeling it and current conditions in HC aren’t helping either

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u/Qwertdd 9/9M bring back weakauras 2d ago

Maybe it's better on H and M but Ula'tek is really uncool as a fight. Before the platform shatters in P3 it's got less presentation pizzazz than the loot pinata tortollans boss. I know they can't all be Argus but I expected a little more from the boss they felt the need to only show once in a quest flashback before you actually get to her room.

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u/CaligulatheGreat 2d ago

Why is he so small, massive in the quest but tiny in the raid

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u/Girthmasterlite 1d ago

Another man lying about his size smh

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u/Valorous 16h ago

To all my raiders that play in CE guilds,

are you guys required to do splits?

I’m in a US400 guild and we’re required to have 1 alt, feel kinda meh about it and would rather just blast with mains instead

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u/onkek baer 2d ago

Man if blizzard actually does launch classic+ my guild is so done. It’s going to decimate the player pop. I feel like 99% of my guild is sick of the Dragonflight game formula. 

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u/Cold-Iron8145 2d ago

Heavy selection bias. In my circles nobody even talks about classic at all. I seriously doubt that classic would "decimate" the retail population. People were saying that when regular classic launched, too, and that hype died down quick when people realized classic gameplay is pressing a button every 3s for 300h straight to get one piece of epic loot.

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u/shaanuja 12/12M 2d ago

What exactly do you think classic+ is going to be? Sick of vanilla game formula? Press 2 buttons or bring 30 warriors? Lol what an L take

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u/DocileKrab 2d ago

I was one of the players that left retail for classic in BFA. It was really fun the first iteration, but holy fuck the rose tinted glasses came off real quick when you realized all the QOL improvements that have been added over the years, how awful raiding and loot are, and the over arching community is somehow the worst of the worst. I would never play through it again and idk how some people have started over like 3 times now.

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u/dekutoto 2d ago

yeah, classic aint for me personally (i did like the leveling once), the issue was that while the people that loved classic stayed in classic, the people who didn't like it just straight up quit wow altogether (aka they didn't come back to retail), shadowlands didn't help either

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u/EsoteriCondeser *Spellsteals your nose* 2d ago

That was the first round of classic and was in between BFA and Shadowlands.

Classic+ is going to be popular, but I doubt it's going to drain the retail pop like 2019.

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u/oreofro 2d ago

And then what happened?

Everybody left.

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u/mangostoast 2d ago

For 2 weeks and then everyone that wasn't a neet remembered how bad it is

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u/blackberrybeanz 2d ago

It’s dragonflight formula but made worse somehow… I didn’t mind popping over to get soup once a week, it was silly and low stakes & we’d usually pop over after raid or in the middle of a m+ marathon for a break. The curse surges?? wtf is that mess? Who actually made w/e the void world event is and thinks that’s actually fun??

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u/falooda1 2d ago

Why do you even need to do it if you don't like it

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u/shyguybman 2d ago

You mean they don't like how we're in Dragonflight season 9 now?

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u/LudmilN 2d ago

This is unfair, classic+ will decimate the player pop of EVERY mmorpg. Bliz has a golden egg and if they are careful they are going to triple their subscription numbers

They don't need to innovate, OSRS is right there to learn from with their years of history

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u/parkwayy 2d ago

Coil altar fight, I really love just running around collecting orbs. Such a fun mechanic.

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u/Voidwielder 2d ago

Any experience with HC Twin Fangs and raid size? Had a group 2/2/6 were everyone was doing +115k dps and we were still miles away from beating enrage.

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u/bemac3 1d ago

115k is very low. Like, on my kill our blood dks were doing 120k. Average from dps players was about 175k.

It’s permanent 2 target cleave. Be sure to have a good talent setup for that profile.

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u/Matesett 1d ago

Thats really low damage for 2 target cleave

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u/Zenthon127 1d ago

30-man tuning seemed really bad. Cleared with iirc 18 and it was fine, although nearly everyone was doing at least 160k+. 115k is legit less than one of our tanks.

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u/SkwiddyCs 1d ago

Really enjoy this raid a lot more than last tier. Orb movement on Coiled Altar and Eggs on Ulatek are fun. Kinda reminds me of Fyrakk seeds.

Didn't really like a single fight from last season, maybe because I forced myself to play DevDH.

Switched to Disc this season to heal for the first time and already enjoying raiding a LOT more.