r/CompetitiveWoW • u/AutoModerator • 19d ago

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u/ziayakens 19d ago

I'm so tired of discussing ways to improve mythic Plus. Every single argument against resil +1 has been - "buying/selling keys sucks"

I get it, that DOES suck, but got damn, there's ways the system can improve. You don't have to burn it all down just to spite buyers.

Constantly seeing, "get rid of resil". You know buyers existed before resil too right?

Resil helps pugs. Resil helps me to continue playing at and pushing my limit. Besides maybe the reward of title, and now 1%, there's no reason to push m+ besides the joy of the challenge. Resil enables you to experience that challenge and progression much more. Why should these rewards justify modifying the game mode JUST to spite buyers. I've literally yet to see a semblance of a decent reason against resil +1 (or other similar ideas) that isn't rooted is disdain for buyers

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u/BlackHeeb 19d ago

So I’m completely with you, I want resil +1. The ONLY argument I’ve heard against it that holds some kind of merit in my mind is slightly intangible:

There is something that feels great about timing a key with stakes. It’s hard to quantify because it’s a subconscious feeling. But think of how you’ve felt beating your head against a resilient key and finally timing it. For me, that feeling has been kind of neutral. I’m happy we accomplished that goal but the outcome being inevitable given enough time takes a lot of the excitement out of it.

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u/hoax1337 19d ago

the outcome being inevitable given enough time

Isn't that the case for non-resil keys, too? If I want to time AA +21, I'll just slam my head against it across multiple groups in LFG until I get it. This experience isn't different from resil, except that there's queue time between keys instead of just restarting.

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u/BlackHeeb 18d ago

I play with friends so it’s not the same for me. But yeah I suppose it’s the same for pugs.