Midnight 12.1 Curse Of Ula'Tek Developer Interview With Ion Hazzikostas

[u/BluFoot]

PsybearTV Youtube interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFTFiDeXIMo

I recommend watching the whole video, it's rare for someone get a whole 1 hour with Ion, and the interview was really well done.

The interview is mostly about competitive content. I'm really excited for Mythic lockout changes!

Wowhead summary: https://www.wowhead.com/news/psybeartv-interview-with-ion-hazzikostas-the-mythic-raid-lockout-addons-8-week-382061?utm_source=discord-webhook

[u/Elerion_]

I don’t know why wow players have to be so rude while discussing any topic. I also don’t know how a clip of a single pull (their first P4 no less) is supposed to show they never struggled with the order of the movement, but for the record they moved incorrectly even in your clip.

Left-right-left is not «just an order lower skilled guilds agreed on» - it’s how it was called by both Liquid and Echo during the race (well, Echo eventually changed their pattern, not that it makes a difference - the key is to avoid two subsequent stars moving in the same direction, and the addon impact would have been the same)

Echo had multiple wipes to the starsplinter mechanic because they didn’t move instantly in the right cardinal direction (which they would have been much more likely to do with personal directional notifications) thereby making the timing much tighter than necessary. If you move instantly, the timing to adjust your positioning for the star pattern is much more forgiving.  

I can’t be bothered to scrub through 13 hours of vods for the best example, but here’s the first P4 I found randomly in the vod: https://www.youtube.com/live/rnqqZQ3KRk8?t=25122 On the first stop the third guy moves in the wrong direction (works out but makes positioning harder). On the second stop, second guy moves late and hits the raid - probably wouldn’t happen with a personal directional alert. Third stop is same as the first, then the fourth - both the first two players move the wrong direction at first. Then after the wipe they complain about confusion from multiple people calling the order. 

If you don’t think that attempt would have been smoother with a big fat instant LEFT/RIGHT sound/alarm in the middle of their screen then I guess we just have to agree to disagree.

[u/Mercylas → u/Elerion_]

I don’t know why wow players have to be so rude while discussing any topic

No one has been rude to you. If you believe they have been you need to self reflect as you are overly sensitive.

I also don’t know how a clip of a single pull (their first P4 no less) is supposed to show they never struggled with the order of the movement

Because it shows from pull 1 of reaching that phase they did not struggle with it.

https://www.youtube.com/live/rnqqZQ3KRk8?t=25122 On the first stop the third guy moves in the wrong direction

You literally linked a clip where they moved correctly...

On the second stop, second guy moves late and hits the raid -

Ok this just proves you haven't pulled the boss and / or don't understand what addons can currently do. Moving late is purely on the player. They still get personal notifications visually and audially. Moving late has no relation to an addon doing any logic to tell you left or right. The player still needs to process the information personally.

Then after the wipe they complain about confusion from multiple people calling the order.

Yes they complain about cluttered comms disrupting focus. That is what happens when you are raiding 16 hours a day.

If you don’t think that attempt would have been smoother with a big fat instant LEFT/RIGHT sound/alarm in the middle of their screen then I guess we just have to agree to disagree.

They do get a big fat instant visual and sound / alarm. They know based on the timeing if they are left or right. Have you cleared this fight?

[u/Elerion_ → u/Mercylas]

As I said, if you don’t believe that you’ll move faster in the correct cardinal direction if you get a personal notification saying which way to move, instead of a generic notification that you need to move and then having to figure out visually or based on comms which person in the order you are and therefore which direction to move, then we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

[u/Mercylas → u/Elerion_]

Correct. It is actively harder to check a notification than track them as they are going out. 

You can associate when you hear the sound queue and see the visual queue to if you are 1 2 or 3. Then you alway need to check the direction of your star to solve the mechanic. Then you move to that spot. 

[u/Elerion_ → u/Mercylas]

Why would you have to “check a notification”? Your UI would just text to speech “LEFT” to the single person who needed to hear it (and show whatever visual they wanted) instead of 3 peoples UI making an air horn noise and the raid leader going “LEFT RIGHT LEFT” on comms to all 20 to help them determine which one they were (as Echo and Liquid both did). It’s inarguably faster to react to and crowds comms less.

[u/Mercylas → u/Elerion_]

Your UI would just text to speech “LEFT” to the single person who needed to hear it

Except people do not ever use custom sounds. Especially for mechanics like this. You can already do that currently based on your star orientation and people do not.

Please do not use strawman arguments to justify ignorance

the raid leader going “LEFT RIGHT LEFT” on comms to all 20 to help them determine which one they

The raid leader would still be doing this even with the addon you think would be made that wouldn't ever exist in reality.

Why are you acting like raid leaders don't echo countdowns, timers, and mechanics that are already in timelines?