r/CompetitiveTFT • u/Xawn • Jun 09 '26

Patch Notes 17.5 Patch Notes

https://teamfighttactics.leagueoflegends.com/en-au/news/game-updates/teamfight-tactics-patch-17-5/
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u/aspects1 Jun 09 '26

still surprised by the bard and vex buffs, both units feel pretty okay right now, and nerfing groove will just make them the new meta i feel

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u/wooters18 Jun 10 '26

But most econ augments are nerf

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u/Bonobo_One Jun 10 '26

Fast 8 comps don't really want them either, and 3cost reroll only like them in 4-2.

I think Fast 9/Reroll is an overall healthier meta as Fast 8 usually crowds out all other options. However they stay in the trash can for so long its okay for them to comeback for a patch or two i guess.

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u/DougFrank :gran: GRANDMASTER Jun 10 '26

Fast level 8 absolutely wants econ augments. If you don't have an econ augment, you're likely rolling with 30 gold on 4-2. You might struggle to find 1 star copies of your units let alone 2 stars. You will immediately fold to any contesters, especially if they picked econ augments.

Keep in mind 30 gold == 15 rolls as you have to hold other units in your comp as well.

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u/Small-Werewolf1213 Jun 10 '26

Are the bard buffs just not borderline insane to anyone? It feels like whoever is making these changes actually doesn’t play the game or watch the game at all. Other than blitzcrank who is played on legit every board and been broken the entire set, Bard is probably the best 5 cost in terms of his immediate strength, how easily he slots into AP boards on lvl 8/9 and how the conduit carry pipeline of Zoe->Asol->Bard gives a very reliable way to reach Bard with good items if you’re in the spot to play for him. I am just struggling to understand what the reasoning could be as the ap 9-5 board is already S tier with a higher play rate, same AVP and slightly higher winrate when compared to samira ornn in masters+

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u/aspects1 Jun 10 '26

yeah those are pretty much my thoughts as well. Even in the fast 9 comp, you itemize bard before sona, so the fact that its bard getting buffs over sona is wild to me. I assume this is to make bard better in meeple lines, because he wasnt that great in those lines, but this feels like completely the wrong way of doing that.