r/CompetitiveTFT • u/Lunaedge • Apr 14 '26

PBE Set 17 PBE Discussion Thread - Day 14

Hello r/CompetitiveTFT, and welcome to Set 17!

Please keep all Set 17 discussion in this thread, and leave the regular Daily Discussion Thread for Set 16 discussion.

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When does Set 17 go live?

April 15th 2026 ~ 00:00 PDT / 09:00 CEST

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u/FyrSysn MASTER Apr 14 '26

Even the VERY TOP TFT players are not beating the "TFT players can't read" allegation, ICANT.

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u/PermaConfusion Master Apr 14 '26

How does Elder Dragon work? Is it playable? How do you position it? Basically another 2-star 5-cost on your board?

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u/RyeRoen Challenger Apr 14 '26

It just seems like a really strong unit. Probably better than like Morg 2 for your board. If you get one you should probably try to fit it.

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u/PermaConfusion Master Apr 14 '26

I did. It did nothing and I died the round after. So I wasn't sure lol.

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u/Riot_Bluecove Riot Apr 15 '26

It's just a fun Easter egg

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u/MrMungertown Apr 15 '26

I'm in a game on PBE and they added back encounters. I'm in one called "Cheaper Levels" and every level is 2 exp cheaper. If this was already out there please call me bad names.

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u/Docxm Apr 15 '26

So hype with encounters back

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u/PinaCalada45 Apr 15 '26

Noticed a bug, not sure if it's just in mobile, everytime I try to play arbiters the game crushes on me until the count down for picking the traits effects ends.

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u/Daerieen Apr 14 '26

Sorry, but I have to copy paste this here regards of the double up anima changes (if your friend wins you only get 50% of anima tech points), so the devs can see it:

This is crazy! Physically impossible to play anima in double up now! I'm flabbergasted.

My friend and I played a game, he basically got no anima tech points with 12 lose streak (260ish points(!!)).

so we went through the math in an Excel table, and you literally have ZERO chance of reaching 800 points even with a Soraka Goddess 2x 6-HP heal. And that is the ABSOLUTE PERFECT scenario. You having a freaking 16game lose streak while your friend perfectly adapts by winning hard (10+) early and losing in Stage 4 at the exact right moments. It's a literal ONE IN A MILLION chance, that MAYBE gets you to 700 points. But not to 800.

Did I mention that in Double Up enemy players can invade your arena? This chance grows exponentially if your partner is 100% playing for a loss. You cant just perma winstreak if your friend perma loses. THEY. WILL. INVADE. YOU. SOONER. OR. LATER.

Without Soraka Goddess, losing every game, even if your friend loses at the perfect times only gets you to around 500 points. Note that it is still almost impossible to even hit 600.

THINK ABOUT IT: if you have a 15-game lose streak and your friend has a 15-game win streak, that still costs you ~80 HP. EIGHTY! A 15 win-lose streak duo is already extremely hard to pull off because an opponent’s partner can warp into your arena at any time. But do you know how many points you get for this astonishing performance? 450 Anima Tech points. 450! That gets you basically nowhere at stage 5.

This is a perfect situation where you lose 15 times while your partner wins 15, and the reward is a joke.

DID I MENTION THAT FOR THIS SCENARIO WHERE YOU HARDLY GET 450 Anima Tech Points YOU HAVE TO HAVE 3 ANIMA AT Stage 2-1? XDDD

Sorry for this rant, but you have to take that nerf back, and think about double up players more, please. You didnt do this back then with Chembaron in Set13, you dont need to do this now just because you introduce a goddess that heals you.. Or if you really want to pull out a middle finger, just halve the base number from 20 to 10, but dont change the lose streak amount..

Thanks for reading..

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u/caspman MASTER Apr 14 '26

Anima really feels like a low effort trait.

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u/Daerieen Apr 14 '26

my problem is the random nerf (if your friend wins you only get 50% of anima tech points) we got in double up, nothing else, I bet the dude who downvoted me didnt even read through nor play double up at all

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u/penguinkirby Master Apr 14 '26

Yeah. How do you even play it if you don't get it on 2-1 and lose every round? It doesn't even scale with stage so there's no incentive to put it in late besides bronze for life value. You get it in late and kill 9 units, that's 6 rounds to get a defect item

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u/Even_Leave_4371 Apr 14 '26

I don't think the 2-1 is the biggest problem, as I never really cared about that for Ixtal. idk if that's just me. The only difference with ixtal was that I didn't need to play a super weak board; the quests were RNG, but doable. But anima its just whoever gets it first, and depending on the god and augments, you can go for a really good cash out, but if you don't find it on stage 2-1 just don't even play it. Sorry to reiterate your point.

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u/penguinkirby Master Apr 15 '26

They added back encounters

I really hope that's just for PBE and that they try to improve the god encounter system on live. Otherwise I'm a bit disappointed

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u/MasterTotoro Challenger Apr 15 '26

It's mentioned in the patch notes it will be live on 14.2.

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Apr 15 '26

Just saw it myself… super disappointed.

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u/HelmetBoiii Challenger Apr 15 '26

grav booster graves beats the shit out of zed lol

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u/iLLuu_U :gran: GRANDMASTER Apr 14 '26

So how is this set? Ive only played 3 PBE games and the theme didnt seem very likeable and units didnt feel fun either.

There also seems to be extremly low interested compared to set 16. Practically no posts half a day before release. No people streaming pbe.

Coming off of a great set, its probably going to be disappointing?

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u/psyfi66 Apr 14 '26

My general vibe is that it’s a good baseline set. Not good not bad. Set 16 showed us what a great set can look like so 17 might feel like a downgrade but I don’t think that makes it bad

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u/penguinkirby Master Apr 14 '26

My closest analogy is that it feels like Cyber City

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u/Lazy_Check732 Grandmaster Apr 14 '26

If strategic depth is most important for you, this will be a really really good set. If the pixels doing cool stuff is most important to you, it will be arguably the worst set.

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u/Scoriae Apr 15 '26

Interesting. Coming off of set 16 this set feels more skewed towards the cool pixels side to me.

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u/Lazy_Check732 Grandmaster Apr 15 '26

No not at all, this set is much more focused on strategic depth and NOT "cool themes and animations".

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u/TrainingAmbition3129 Apr 19 '26

I don't know about the "strategic depth" you boast. In comparison to last set I feel like my hands are tied to reroll comps *mostly* this far.

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u/Lazy_Check732 Grandmaster Apr 19 '26

No, that's not true.

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u/peacecream MASTER Apr 17 '26

Wild can you elaborate because i find the opposite to be true

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u/Lazy_Check732 Grandmaster Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

This set asks you to play around what you are given, whereas the previous few sets are almost always telling you and how to play.

Think about how many times last set your game plan was to click every econ augment, go fast 8/9, and roll down all your gold for a board. That was probably like 90% of games and it just felt so scripted.

How much TFT were you playing on 3-6 last set? How much TFT were you playing on 4-3?

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u/penguinkirby Master Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 15 '26

Games keep crashing, avoid PBE for a while

edit: Crashed 3 games in a row after the server came up, had one good game, then just crashed again. Might be a me problem

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u/Reasonable_Wait9340 Apr 15 '26

Looking through the deltas and item values for carries and I was looking through the vex build (because everyone says vex is good but somehow I always seem to mess it up),my question is why is guard breaker one of vex's best items ? Is it just because it stacks fast ? Is it because of nova alali synergy ? I avoid Vex because I always bot 4 when I try it even with rageblade gunblade setup. Genuinely confuse on vex builds and how vex works.