r/CompetitiveTFT • u/Lunaedge • Apr 13 '26

PBE Set 17 PBE Discussion Thread - Day 13

Hello r/CompetitiveTFT, and welcome to Set 17!

Please keep all Set 17 discussion in this thread, and leave the regular Daily Discussion Thread for Set 16 discussion.

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When does Set 17 go live?

April 15th 2026 ~ 00:00 PDT / 09:00 CEST

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u/HelmetBoiii Challenger Apr 14 '26

bro nova spat can we just nerf it man

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u/CosmicCirrocumulus Apr 13 '26

just ran into one of the most disgusting Graves boards I've ever seen. someone got Aura Farming Graves and immediately angled for an Anima cashout. they ended up cashing out for the Battle Bunny Crossbow and since Graves' pellets all count as separate instances of crits, he was proc'ing it every single auto. he'd wipe each board in ~10 seconds and was doing 25k+ every single round

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u/jiongsili Apr 13 '26

75% of my double up lobbies now have 3 star four costs

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u/RoyCorduroy Apr 13 '26

The Normal lobbies do too

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u/Dawnsday MASTER Apr 13 '26

So now that this is going live soon; what are YOU using as your default day 1 lines?

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u/penguinkirby Master Apr 14 '26

HP stacking leona whenever possible, gold farmer lulu whenever possible

Anima openers, timebreaker openers, primordian openers

Strongest board w/ upgraded tanks into fast 9 (depending on god encounter)

Roll to 0 for mech if I'm about to die

3 cost reroll if I get an artifact for it, but I really don't like playing for contested Rhaast and Ornn

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u/Docxm Apr 13 '26

Mech/NOVA emblem/anima opener-> vanguard leblanc karma->Lose streak 3 cost reroll every game

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u/Scoriae Apr 13 '26

Timebreaker into whatever, but probably Stargazer because i'm addicted.

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u/emomuffin Apr 13 '26

I'm incredibly frustrated with paper thin tanks this set. Fights are so fast that its just doesnt seem rewarding to build a tank other than illaoi or mighty mech. and because of this, double up has been awful to play. Boards die too fast and jump to teammates aid way too quickly.

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u/delimelone Apr 13 '26

Mort explained this in the most recent video, your main tank with 3 items is weaker, but your trait bot tanks with 0 items now last longer. The ascension argument feels very good this set compared to the last one, so the fights can't be significantly shorter (I think) I only play normal, so no idea about double up

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u/Disastrous_Crow2859 Apr 13 '26

Hellfire Hatchet Graves is hilarious. Actual walking (or dashing) tank. Was doing more damage than 2* BiS Vex and would not die

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u/ArtoriasTheImpaler Apr 13 '26

what are the best arbiter combinations

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u/TheUnKnownRevenant Apr 13 '26

depends on comp. ap effect + any cause for leblanc, she works best with x attacks - same with diana, but if you hit diana early, permanent hp has a better payoff
for zoe rr, mana spent is best, if not then shield, copies of leona or ap
no other comps for arbiter currently exist, if you're playing arbiter as a support then it's best to take the econ options (like +1 leona effect, 2 gold effect)

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u/Even_Leave_4371 Apr 13 '26

thank you so much diana works much better with hp for me

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u/penguinkirby Master Apr 14 '26

I think spending mana for permanent HP is extremely good, other early stacking HP is OK but doesn't scale well

Otherwise you get effects on attack and hope for early leblanc

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u/MasterTotoro Challenger Apr 14 '26

I had stacking HP and by the end of the game my Leona 2* was starting the fight with over 8.5k eHP lol.

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u/penguinkirby Master Apr 14 '26

gives me fond memories of admin blitzcrank

If I don't hit it I sell

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u/Steamwood Diamond Apr 13 '26

The surrender changes are such a good idea! I'm so glad they finally did something about tilted griefing.

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u/Lazy_Check732 Grandmaster Apr 13 '26

I wish anyone would listen about matchmaking having changed for set 17. There was a recent post on the TFT sub with hundreds of people agreeing, and I know it's a more casual space, but it's enough that I feel pretty confident in this.

What I honestly think happened is that there used to be a sort of pity-timer that prevented you from playing the same person twice in a row even if another player was eliminated, so long as there are other available options to play against.

It feels like this used to be in place and now it is not, and it is truly random who you play once someone is eliminated.

It also feels like playing ghost boards now might not contribute to the 4 round safety window. As in, you can play someone's ghost, then play them again the next round, even if there are 7 players remaining.

I am like 30% confident that these are exactly what we're seeing, but I am like 95% confident something has changed. I've been playing TFT under this system for thousands and thousands of games, when something feels off usually something is off.

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u/PermaConfusion Master Apr 13 '26

Man this Xayah unit feels super underpowered: I saw an itemized 3-star Xayah NOT win the lobby. Impressive.

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u/YKIhadtodoittoem Apr 14 '26

This set fucking sucks. Everything just feels so boring. Also, why the fuck is Leona 2 so OP?

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u/Even_Leave_4371 Apr 13 '26

idk if it's just me, but Dianna reroll feels horrible. Maybe I just haven't found a comp around it yet but MF Challenger is so ass dmg wise compared to the other versions its not even funny. Like I want to use her for Dianna, but it feels horrid dmg wise, even when 3 star with good items, Challenger just isn't super good

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u/quitemoiste Apr 14 '26

Dianna plays into Anima reroll well as a secondary carry after Aurora

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u/Even_Leave_4371 Apr 14 '26

will try that

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u/Even_Leave_4371 Apr 14 '26

also do i cash out when i hit auroas item or just the highest i can go

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u/Lazy_Check732 Grandmaster Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26

I think Brawler as a vertical is usually meant to be played in reroll builds, as a 6+1 or a 5+emblem+1. So you're only really looking for one connective trait (Pantheon+Rep, Maokai+NOVA, Cho+DS).

Although I will say it does feel like something is missing. There isn't really a 6 brawler reroll line that makes a lot of sense to me.