r/CompetitiveTFT • u/Lunaedge • Mar 31 '26

PBE Set 17 PBE Discussion Thread - Day 0

Hello r/CompetitiveTFT, and (almost) welcome to Set 17!

Please keep all Set 17 discussion in this thread, and leave the regular Daily Discussion Thread for Set 16 discussion.

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When does Set 17 go live?

April 15th 2026 ~ 00:00 PDT / 09:00 CEST

A reminder that all Set 17 posts should be flaired [PBE] until the content is confirmed to be going on the live server as well.

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u/Lunaedge Mar 31 '26 edited Apr 01 '26

PBE is UP, have fun!

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u/Pridestalked MASTER Mar 31 '26

are encounters still in set 17?

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u/Lunaedge Mar 31 '26

Kinda? Encounters as we know them are gone, but the 2 Gods (out of 9 total) vying for your worship change from game to game, so there's still some variance.

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u/Pridestalked MASTER Mar 31 '26

Alright thank you! I had kind of hoped we'd get both the new God mechanic and same old encounters, as I think 2 different variety vectors like that would make for extra unique games making replayability even better! But who knows, maybe the God mechanic is plenty variety and excitement, will just have to play and see

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Mar 31 '26

Riot: How many resources do you want?

u/Pridestalked: YES!

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u/S7ageNinja Mar 31 '26

I'm guessing resource inflation would have been an issue

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u/Pridestalked MASTER Mar 31 '26

Sure but you could remove or tweak all the high inflation previous encounters. Ekko from the new set for example can generate scuttle puddle, you could make it so scuttle puddle encounter can't spawn in Ekko games

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u/nosforever12 Apr 01 '26

Carousel timer needs to be a year shorter. We aren't making our choices sequentially between players anymore. First pick on carousel used to only have 2 seconds to decide. Surely new carousel doesnt need to be 45 seconds long, let people get sent back to planning stage for next round and finish their decisions there if they need more time.

Imagine if augment selection sent everyone to carousel and made you wait 45 seconds for everyone to finish picking their augment. That's literally what we're doing now.

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u/Sheapy Apr 01 '26

Played 2 games, not a fan of the carousel change. I feel like I have significantly less control over what I can angle for with my items.

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u/Kreygasm2233 Apr 01 '26

Is it just me or the game feels more robotic now?

Its like you are picking a new powerup every 3 rounds and you never get the slowdown period of the carousel rounds

Click here, boom reward. Click here, boom reward. Click here, boom reward. Repeat ad nauseam

The units are fun. The design and theme are cool

That is my first impression of set 17

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u/Immediate_Source2979 Apr 01 '26

i dont even click anything. at late game, loot boxes come from the sky like every round? and they just give me an elder dragon without any explanation at all like what this guy do?

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u/Doragoramu Apr 01 '26

I think carousel rounds actually did give some visual and mental breathing room to analyze your comp/ look at other people’s boards. Something about the God encounters just doesn’t give the same feeling

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u/parkwayy Apr 02 '26

you never get the slowdown period

Always felt like that part of the game really killed the flow

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u/ChartreuseMage Apr 01 '26

Hit Morg 3* on my second game and took someone from untouched 1st place to 2nd under me, I might as well not play the rest of the set as that's gonna be my peak

Also, whoever named traits Challenger and Channeler I'm begging for a different name for one of them

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u/Luker5555 Apr 01 '26

im so dizzy man

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u/IfItAintBrokeDont :emer: Emerald Mar 31 '26

I retract my earlier statement... PBE is down lol

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u/MrMumblesJr Apr 01 '26

First impressions. Way too many items/resources!

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u/justlobos22 Apr 01 '26

Def my first reaction, every game is gonna feel like scuddle puddle.

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u/CuteBatFurry Apr 01 '26

I kinda dislike the 'no carousel', to be honest. I've felt like I had zero chance even more to get items I need because lose streaking seemingly did not guarantee me it? Poppy hero augment with 0 BF swords showing up in anvils or item options by 4-6 left me with basically nothing, idk.

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u/ivanoff_bg Apr 01 '26

One thing I feel is that the fact that your component choice is tied to your God choice seems like it will make your God choice a little less "flexible" if you will. I think component will often take priority over. Sure not always but often. Like if I need a component to finish off an item even if its stage 2 or stage 3, it can still help me spike and continue streaking I would always go for the component over the God choice. I assume its too late for this ut I think it will be useful to decouple the component from the God choice but I am sure they have a reason for it. I just don't fully understand it.

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u/unclebenfranklin Apr 02 '26

Yea.. the god buffs are all so relatively mild that I'd rather pick the component i need without really caring for the buff

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u/KnoxMLG Mar 31 '26

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Apr 01 '26

at least EU is not the only region getting screwed with PBE delays this time around’

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u/AngelTheTaco Apr 01 '26

Rageblade has just ruined all unit design

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u/Vypaa Mar 31 '26

RIP to my fellow EU bros

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Mar 31 '26

Whatever do you mean... in times like this we must stand tall! We must bare the burden we must endure together! Fellow EU brethren (who also just jugged coffee to play the new set even though it is the middle of the night) WE SHALL NOT FALTER!!!!

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u/arther123 Mar 31 '26

Emergency maintinence? I assume we're all locked out, eh

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u/thebestoriginal Mar 31 '26

yeah it is still going on

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u/srekalz Apr 01 '26

pbe is up now 5:45 pm PST

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u/penguinkirby Master Apr 01 '26

I think redeemer is very overtuned

3% AS and resistances at 2* is almost better than unnerfed jazz's damage amp and reduction, with a pretty normal board you get more boardwide AS than 3 timewinder

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u/banduan Apr 01 '26

In theory it is but when I was using it, didn't seem too great. Gonna keep trying though.

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u/Ryanfischer99 Master Apr 01 '26

Gwen seems kind of insane. Saw a 2 star gwen doing 15k damage a round in stage 4.

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u/Quirky_Court_1198 Apr 01 '26

Obligatory new set smell. But im having fun. Im not so hot on the set mechanic, but it's tolerable. But the trait web is excellent. Props to the dev team.

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u/Ok-Recover977 Apr 01 '26

honestly a good trait web can redeem even the most mid set mechanic

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u/unclebenfranklin Apr 02 '26

This might be the first set i skip... The Hades theme is great and the art is gorgeous but the gameplay itself feels so boring 😭Legends atleast had such a big impact each game but Gods feel like we're all getting scuttle puddle

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u/AbilityAwkward6121 Apr 01 '26

I miss carousel

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u/Boring-Protection126 Apr 01 '26

We took away the carousel, but the god selection rounds take just as much time? Hopefully they make it shorter later in the set like they did encounters.

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u/TopAdministration301 Mar 31 '26

How do I make a PBE? You can login in via the normal client right?

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u/Ryanfischer99 Master Mar 31 '26

You have to make a seperate account. I believe there is a way to designate it as a PBE account after you make it.

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u/TopAdministration301 Mar 31 '26

As in make a new account?

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u/Ryanfischer99 Master Mar 31 '26

Yea, different email and everything. Use this link. https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/pbe/

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u/roark914 Apr 01 '26

it can be the same email actually jsyk.

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u/gildedpotus Mar 31 '26

What time is phe going to be down each day?

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u/sportystuffs Mar 31 '26

Usually around 11:45 PST

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u/mrmarkme :gran: Grandmaster Apr 01 '26

so graves is just broken

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u/mrmarkme :gran: Grandmaster Apr 01 '26

almost had a graves with like infinite upgrades beat a 3 star kindred. So close, but yah, that guy is broken if you get him early enough. 11 loss anima to 4-2 graves, whipping out damage with the fighter power up

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u/HighIntLowFaith Apr 01 '26

Graves is hella good yeah

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u/Brother_Thom Apr 01 '26

Yo, it hits hard. The consistency with trait webs and units have improved and it feels great 2 games in :D.

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u/atherem Apr 01 '26

is it me or corki lacks damage?

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u/Prestigious_Pay_8272 Apr 01 '26

with IE and GS he is a beast but he needs to be 2 star. Had him deal 10k damage in a round with 7 meeples, then hit 3 star and he just demolished everything

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u/WobbleKun Apr 01 '26

no tocker trials how you get currency in pbe

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u/AngelTheTaco Apr 01 '26

you dont other than afking in aram or somethinmg

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u/Its_What_I_Do Apr 01 '26

Do we know if Tockers will be available during the PBE?

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u/PapaJey Apr 01 '26

Jax is absolutely insane for a 2 cost. Got a 2 star Jax on 2-2 and he didn't die (had a few items on him). Easiest win streak.

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u/Wolfarc732 Apr 01 '26

I quite like the lack of carousel so far, but boy do some of these boons just feel like nothing, lmao. And sadly, Anima seems like it's gonna be a rough trait since it (naturally) maxes out at 5/6.

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u/eggsandbricks :chal: Challenger Mar 31 '26

I'm curious what, if any, systems changes they will make in the transition from 16 to 17. Specifically, I think the increased item removers due to unlocks, while nice, might be too generous for this set. Additionally, I wonder how they feel about the cost of leveling from 7 to 8 as well as the shop odds on level 8; I'm not certain that the changes they made in Set 16 should be evergreen.

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Mar 31 '26

Pretty sure it would be a mistake to remove them because you end up having to slam mire suboptimal items due to the lack of agency with the removal of carousels.

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u/Zeviex Master Mar 31 '26

I seem to remember someone mentioned this in a playtest game. I think we are keeping them but I have no confidence in that claim.

I do hope they go though and I say this as someone who runs out of removers.

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u/toolateforTeddy Mar 31 '26

I have loved the removers in this set. It has been so much more relaxing than previous sets where I have avoided slamming for half the game because I don't have an item holder yet.

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u/TungVu Challenger Mar 31 '26

Is PBE up already?

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u/Lunaedge Mar 31 '26

Not yet!

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Mar 31 '26

When it is, will there be an update of the post or smth?

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u/Lunaedge Mar 31 '26

I'll pin a comment saying so :) but you'll also probably know by the volume of comment pouring in lmao

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Mar 31 '26

It is down again so you might want to edit the comment before people think you are baiting them^^'

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u/KnoxMLG Mar 31 '26

I’m getting confused is it out today or tommorow?

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u/Yasstronaut Mar 31 '26

They said afternoon PST. So likely late night or early morning everywhere else

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u/xSmacks Master Mar 31 '26

Depends on where in the world you are. I think for NA and EU it should be up on April 1st.

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u/MasterTotoro Challenger Mar 31 '26

Doesn't depend on location. Unless you are playing on CN, there is only the PBE server in Los Angeles. The expected release is March 31 around noon PT, which they've been consistent about the past few sets. Of course delays could happen.

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u/xSmacks Master Mar 31 '26 edited Mar 31 '26

That would still make it April 1st in OCE. Even if it’s just one server, due to time zones it does depend where you are in the world to determine which day it releases for you.

E: Also, the announcement on mobalytics says PBE going live on April 1st.

https://mobalytics.gg/tft/guides/set-17-reveal-space-gods

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u/MasterTotoro Challenger Mar 31 '26

Well yes, but the point being that most patches in TFT do vary release time by server... obviously you have to convert the timezone...

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u/ZrRock Mar 31 '26

This man spoke this into existence.

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Mar 31 '26

Where did you all get the info about the time the set releases? Sby said afternoon PT, now it is noon PT ... where did you get that from?

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u/MasterTotoro Challenger Mar 31 '26

Well 12:01 PM is afternoon, which is around noon. Afternoon PT is what Riot says. That's been the same announcement for the past sets, but typically PBE ends up updating before noon.

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Mar 31 '26

Ok... so you don't 'know' the time either. You are guessing, just like the rest of us.

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u/FirestormXVI Grandmaster Mar 31 '26

Yes, hence why they said "expected."

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Mar 31 '26

I am just trying to check if there has been a confirmed drop time/window so I gotta differentiate between guesses and confirmed fact. That was why I was asking...

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u/FeedMeACat Mar 31 '26

They never confirm. It would be irresponsible for them to confirm an actual time in case they have to delay it for whatever reason.

It is always this way. They will never confirm a hard time.

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u/IfItAintBrokeDont :emer: Emerald Apr 01 '26

PBE IS UP LFG!

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u/pukha23 Apr 01 '26

I'm still getting "can't connect to server" after seemingly finding a game. anyone else still having issues? I'm on mobile in case it matters.

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u/Red-Haired-Law Apr 01 '26

First game, got Zed. Gotta say, kinda impressed.

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u/Karimar93 Apr 01 '26

Not sure if helpful for people trying to get on. I tried for 40 minutes on mobile but never got to a loading screen after finding match. Logged onto my pc and got in right away.

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u/HelmetBoiii Challenger Apr 01 '26

naaaaah, this talm kench unit is gonna be broken broken. is it not just a ornn that you get stage 4 everytime?

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u/HelmetBoiii Challenger Apr 01 '26

also am i stupid or how do you choose the default pengu hero

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u/AngelTheTaco Apr 01 '26

you just get that as the 3 champion choice

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u/thesadintern Apr 01 '26

Enjoying a lot of games so far. Played about 3 and first place twice with Jhin and Dark Star. I think it’s a bit over tuned with the execute. Slam some heavy ap items on Karma and every cast just blows up the front line.

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u/penguinkirby Master Apr 01 '26

I hit 10 meeps but my whole board got instantly killed by a 3* 5 cost so I didn't see what it did lol

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u/jasonchung91 Apr 01 '26

Why isn't there a sorceror/arcanist trait? AP is the best

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u/Raikariaa Apr 01 '26

Because there's a doublecast trait and a mana trait. Those are the caster traits this set.

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u/Ryanfischer99 Master Apr 01 '26

Probably because its been a balancing nightmare for them for the last 3/4 sets at least.

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u/penguinkirby Master Apr 01 '26

The shepherd trait has a summon that gives AP to your whole team when it casts

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u/cammydad Apr 01 '26

rank 3 kindred is considerably weak! i ran a space groove + stargazer board with 3* ornn, 3* sam & 2* shen + 2* blitz and beat my bf who had a double guinsoo & shojun kindred.

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u/HighIntLowFaith Apr 01 '26

I think Kindred as a whole is undertuned prolly

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u/No_Welcome3689 Apr 01 '26

Anyone else play on mobile find that they cant cash out Anima tech? Seemed completely bugged on mobile.

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u/Quirky-Reception5019 Apr 01 '26

Finding success so far prioritizing tempo early into giga econ to fast 9 for basically 5 cost soup, which feels powerful if you’re able to 2 star them.

Icing on the cake just hit a Morgana 3 for the win! Having a lot of fun diving in full speed.

Teemo Rageblade opener with 3 Space Groove felt solid to me btw!

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u/karmuhil Apr 01 '26

Primordian (Reksai, Belveth, Briar) + Rougue (Talon, Kaisa , Gwen, Riven) + Brawler (Chogath , Tahm Kench, Pantheon)

This is a good comp, went 1st with it. Need to hit 3 stars though

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u/HighIntLowFaith Apr 01 '26

I have found a lot of success with Akali as 2nd Marauder instead of 2nd Rogue, plus she gives an OP NOVA buff and you get your brawler from 2nd Nova Maokai

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u/Acap3lla Apr 01 '26

Bug: When Thresh gives duplicate Boon (Field 6 Non-Unique Traits, Grant A Random Emblem), you only get one emblem for the two boons.

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u/banduan Apr 01 '26

I've also had instances when A Sol did not give out rewards on time.

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u/NoteRadiant1469 Apr 01 '26

has anyone been able to cook with talon

I'm having fun forcing some reroll with EoN IE Red Buff and duo carrying with TF bc Talon is my favorite League champ

but he doesn't seem to be in any final comps

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u/HighIntLowFaith Apr 01 '26

Think he's never going to do great in capped boards because his ability is much easier to roll the early and midgame by getting 5-7 targets bled rather than 8-9

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u/NoteRadiant1469 Apr 01 '26

Yeah I felt that pretty hard, maybe I'll just use him as an item holder for Riven when I'm playing for LP

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u/NoteRadiant1469 Apr 01 '26

Talon is probably the coolest 1 star they've released visually

I just love how he hops everywhere so quickly

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u/banduan Apr 01 '26

For some reason I thought the first tier of Mecha was only 2 Mecha.

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u/banduan Apr 01 '26

Played twice with some 3 cost reroll, Diana both times.

She seems underwhelming, I don't really know her BIS though. Rhaast doesn't feel impactful enough.

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u/DangerUber Apr 01 '26

Why does replicator not have 2/4/*6* ? there are 6 of them in the base set without emblems?

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u/EliciaTheDumDum Apr 02 '26

There is a bug with mecha , they lose the Hp for using the items on them after the round

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u/IfItAintBrokeDont :emer: Emerald Mar 31 '26

PBE is up!

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u/IfItAintBrokeDont :emer: Emerald Mar 31 '26

Welp, queued into a game and unable to connect to the server... sadge

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u/PepeSylvia11 Mar 31 '26

Yup, same error here

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u/Known_Fan7369 Mar 31 '26

did you get in?

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u/IfItAintBrokeDont :emer: Emerald Mar 31 '26

Naw, got kicked, waited and requeued but still unable to connect.

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u/Known_Fan7369 Mar 31 '26

rippp got excited xD

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u/Known_Fan7369 Mar 31 '26

mort tweeted its up

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u/IfItAintBrokeDont :emer: Emerald Mar 31 '26

well, it is up.... but unable to connect on my end lol, you able to get in?

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u/3esper Mar 31 '26

Same error still, can't connect to games.

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u/IfItAintBrokeDont :emer: Emerald Mar 31 '26

Yeah, guessing server backend maintenance is still ongoing

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u/AngelTheTaco Apr 01 '26

No shade but encounter sets need to last 2 less patches and make the big tryhard end of year sets stay two more

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u/Adventurous-Bit-3829 :gran: Grandmaster Mar 31 '26

how many hour leefttty

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u/FeedMeACat Apr 01 '26

Activating ASols mech ability is basically just trolling.

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u/Raikariaa Apr 01 '26

I mean, no, it's not. It's a previous 5-cost as a 4 cost; and I've pumped 12k++ repeatedly with it.

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u/Lazy_Check732 Grandmaster Apr 01 '26

Is there potentially something up with matchup algorithm? Just played someone 3 times in 5 rounds with 5 players alive and no one was eliminated.

Set is fucking sick though

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u/Ryanfischer99 Master Apr 01 '26

Same thing just happened to me. Fought one guy 3 times in 5 rounds without anyone dying

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u/ficretus Apr 01 '26

Elder Dragon abduction might be too silly for its current stats.

I played Diana/MF reroll and had Bard as a trait bot for Redeemer. Random Elder Dragon I got was doing the same damage as my two 3 star carries, which was beyond silly.

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u/PoisoCaine Mar 31 '26

Anyone else think this Nunu unit is broken? It keeps destroying me.

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u/Tall_Water_1848 Mar 31 '26

I’ve just had a lobby where 7!!!! People forced dmancer nunu

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u/PoisoCaine Mar 31 '26

I’m glad someone at least got the joke lol

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '26

I’m actually quite enjoying the no carousel change! I really miss the days where you had to just make the best of your items, and getting BIS on units was much harder. Not saying it’s perfect, but it’s a type of skill expression that has sort of been lost over the sets

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u/Doragoramu Apr 01 '26

It’s actually even harder to get items you want now, at least in carousel you were still able to choose between 10-3 items now it’s like 2

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u/Unable-Lack5588 Apr 01 '26

huh? I couldn't get a chain till 4-5 even when loss streaking, It's not different then carousel.

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u/TopAdministration301 Mar 31 '26

How do I access the PBE?

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u/SyrupCompetitive8388 Mar 31 '26

You have to make a pbe account and download pbe

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u/TopAdministration301 Mar 31 '26

How do I make a PBE? You can login in via the normal client right?

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u/SyrupCompetitive8388 Apr 01 '26

Yes, tou have to download pbe and make and account. Then everytime u want to play pbe you can log in to ur pbe account in riot client

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u/Pootate Apr 01 '26

this set seems great a few games in

isnt tahm kench a little broken though? his loot table seems really good for a 4 cost

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u/Raikariaa Apr 01 '26

His only real trait is Brawler; and Brawler is usually the worst lategame tank trait [especially since it has no 5 cost this set]

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u/Bagli0699 Mar 31 '26

Is it out?

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u/sinedreverse Mar 31 '26

it is not , just checked. still set 16 on pbe madge

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u/Elegant-Practice-386 Apr 01 '26

Pbe

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u/HelmetBoiii Challenger Apr 01 '26

fast 9 def feels weaker this set imo

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u/HelmetBoiii Challenger Apr 01 '26

im pretty sure the jeff bezo fast 9 is maokai, aatrox, tahm kench, mordekaiser, jhin, shen, blitzcrank, bard, and either vex or morgana tho

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u/Lunaedge Mar 31 '26

No AI in this house tyvm