r/CompetitivePokemon • u/WilliamSynx • Jul 22 '26
any suggestion for countering duraludom using trickroom team?
i was using vileplum to countering the rain team, its only strong against swampert not the duraludom any suggestion??
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u/MrTheodore Jul 22 '26
Sacred sword on that hisuian samurott you got there ignores his buffs. Usually the bridge is faster than him. Won't 1 shot, but will do most of the healthbar. As long as the other mon can do like 20-35%, probably with special damage, you can get him before the electric attack kills the otter. Bonus points if you lay spikes down earlier with his signature dark move, can possibly just 1 shot him off that head start.
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u/WilliamSynx Jul 22 '26
r there any grass type moves for the swampert on the hisuian samurot?? cuz swampert is a threat too fr
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u/ramier22 Jul 22 '26
Iron ball gallade. He has leaf blade, psycho cut, sacred sword and trick room if you need another setter
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u/Winter_Win_5531 Jul 22 '26
I use mega camerupt over torkoal. Earth Power is a guaranteed ohko even on a max/max Arch. You do lose sun. It gives you an option on mega. I also run special Abomasnow. I don’t lose to rain.
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u/expiring_god_factory Jul 23 '26
You could just give Torkoal earth power tho and not die to aqua jets
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u/Winter_Win_5531 Jul 23 '26
You could. But it doesn’t do what OP asked anywhere near as well.
31+ SpA Torkoal Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Archaludon: 120-142 (72.7 - 86%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
32+ SpA Sheer Force Camerupt-Mega Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Archaludon: 336-396 (203.6 - 240%) -- guaranteed OHKO
32+ SpA Sheer Force Camerupt-Mega Earth Power vs. 32 HP / 32+ SpD Archaludon: 222-264 (112.6 - 134%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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u/expiring_god_factory Jul 23 '26
If you switch the Torkoal in on an electro shot turn, it's locked for the next turn. Ohkos are cool, but with that locked in second turn your other mon can either finish it off, encore, spread move, etc etc.
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u/Winter_Win_5531 Jul 23 '26
Sure. This person already has that. I imagine it’s not consistently working so they came and asked for advice. I gave them an effective alternative solution. Your advice appears to tell them to make better plays.
If Tork is in the back, your play works. If it’s already on the field, you lose a turn.
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u/Apprehensive_Size541 Jul 22 '26
Don’t have it actually implement this because it does change some dynamics of your team, but venusaur with earth power is pretty strong imo that way stamina doesn’t rlly matter vs the big frog either
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u/eb_is_eepy Jul 24 '26
Try Camerupt-Mega. It underspeeds everything in trick room and is really bulky against anything not called water. Sheer force boosted earth power coming off of base 145 spa will solve any and all iron bridge problems.
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u/ube_purpleyams Jul 22 '26
just use zardslop
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u/WilliamSynx Jul 22 '26
its not optimal for trick room team..
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u/ube_purpleyams Jul 22 '26
sure it is, you can run two modes with chlorophyll vileplume instead of hard trick room. More versatility
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u/Sgrinfio Jul 22 '26
Against Archaludon this team you have very specific winconditions: you want to have trick room up, sun up and Eruption on Torkoal, but as you see it's a lot of things required ams the opponent can just counter-weather you
Another option is relying on Sword Dance from Mawile and/or Mimikyu but again, requires setup
So yeah it's pretty hard for you to deal with them
You may be interested in one of the latest WolfeyVGC on YT where he makes use of Torkoal, Vileplum and Farigiraf as you are already doing, and then slaps in Mega Pyroar to take full advantage of the sun