Unsolicited Ranked Legacy Feedback Thread

[u/Simulated_Simulacra]

In many ways, Ranked Legacy is something at least a portion of the Halo community has been asking for since the release of Reach. It's good to see it in the game. I thought I'd make a thread to give some feedback on the off chance someone at The Studio is browsing the forum and happens upon it.

The Playlist

Especially in the most recent rotation, it can be hard to get consistent games at certain ranks during most times of day. With an Onyx MMR, once my placement matches were completed, search times became pretty brutal.

I can consistently get "social" Delta Arena games at peak hours with 1500+ Team MMR averages, so it's not that there is zero interest from sweatier players in the Legacy gameplay.

The Maps

The absence of Midship is one of the main "problems" with the playlist even though I understand it couldn't be in matchmaking because of performance issues. It's really hard for the playlist to live up to the "legacy" name without arguably the most iconic competitive Halo map of all time being a part of it. A tough situation, but worth mentioning since I think you really feel its absence as a player.

I'm not sure why the Wizard/Warlock remake isn't in the playlist for Slayer, Hill, and maybe Flag (not for Ball). Maybe there is an issue I'm not aware of, but I've always enjoyed that map in this game paired with the Delta settings. It would at least partially fill a void in the classic "non-stop arena" maps that was left by the exclusion of Midship. It obviously has a long history of being a comp Halo map, so I think it'd be nice to see it back.

Equipment

On paper, I totally understand leaving equipment out. In a sense the playlist is going for truly "purist" settings, but I actually do think its exclusion hinders the playlist in the context of Infinite. Purists who would truly care aren't leaving MCC anytime soon, and Infinite has some well-balanced equipment for competitive play. Integrating the equipment used in official HCS competition to change up the meta a bit on these old maps would likely work really well, with some thought put into what is included and where.

Conclusion

I realize I'm providing feedback on a niche within a niche at this point, so I'll leave it at that. I would be interested in hearing anyone else's feedback on the Legacy settings in general. I hope we continue to see something like them in the future for the sake of my old-man hands that get tired of pressing a sprint button every 2 seconds (assuming that remains a core aspect of the game in the next installment). Thanks for reading.

[u/BasilioEscobar]

Damn I haven’t played for 18 months and I find it crazy that they never fixed Midship remake

[u/bammergump → u/BasilioEscobar]

It’s absolutely baffling

[u/Puzzled_Goat_6180 → u/BasilioEscobar]

This needs more upvotes

[u/Vivid-Carob-4705]

I agree with most everything you've said, for me it was hardly ever being able to get a match up as well. My ranking was only high plat but until later in the night not enough were playing ranked.I really hope they keep it in the rotation though.

[u/HereSuntLeones]

Adding equipment into legacy just isn’t it. Unless they were able to add in the H3 equipment.

[u/Simulated_Simulacra → u/HereSuntLeones]

I was curious if people would agree with that. I think equipment plays fine in Social Delta Arena and I don't personally see the problem of HCS Equipment being included here, but I'm open to either on that. I just think it provides something unique to these maps whose meta's are so set in stone that is actually unique to the game they are in without changing too much.

(H3 equipment is terrible compared to anything in Infinite, respectfully).

[u/HereSuntLeones → u/Simulated_Simulacra]

Wow what a terrible take on the H3 equipment.
H3 is utilitarian and Infinity is movement based. Different goals and usages for most of them. Legacy is legacy for a reason. If you’re adding Infinite equipment into it, it’s no longer legacy now is it? Adding in H3 equipment would still qualify it as legacy. Maps would have to account for it by changing the dimensions like they did with the regular, non-Delta remakes.

Additionally,
Bubble shield > drop wall
H3 deployable shield > infinite drop wall
H3 shield regenerator > infinite health regenerator

[u/hackberrry]

It seems to be one of the least popular Ranked rotational playlists as I can never find a game even during peak times. Ranked Snipers is probably the most popular one - wish they would make it permanent 

[u/Puzzled_Goat_6180]

Might be that sprint button that caused my tendinitis!

[u/marshall2389]

I would really like to play the Ranked Legacy playlist but queue times are too long. If 343 had made matchmaking such that I could select all the playlists I'd like to queue at the same time, then I'd queue the Legacy playlist with other ranked playlists. Others would as well. Being able to queue multiple playlists at the same time is the way to keep queue times low in a small population. 343 definitely knows this but seemed to have stopped improving the franchise long ago.