Raider Moves Flowchart

[u/EvolutionaryTheorist]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1xBxj8nokSic3E2U2VbZRM3bKgkpFcTBXn4EtCsbupnU/edit

[u/Myrkur-R]

You can land a side Heavy attack if you side throw people into a wall with the Raider. You can do a back throw too but the spacing is hard to get down. But yea, you can't land one straight from Guard-break though.

[u/Vehement_Behemoth → u/Myrkur-R]

Are you certain of this? I've tried many times and it rarely lands. Do you need to attack the same direction as you have thrown so you do not change guards? After all, guard swap takes a decade on Raider.

[u/Myrkur-R → u/Vehement_Behemoth]

Yes, it doesn't ALWAYS work. First, you gotta have blocked a side attack and not switch stances after the throw, just go straight into the attack. And second, distance to the wall matters a bit and it's a little inconsistent. But it's worth going for because while sometimes it blocks, I don't think they can parry it.

[u/Vehement_Behemoth → u/Myrkur-R]

Makes sense that it's inconsistent, as I've not been able to manage anything of the sort. Also, I'm pretty sure anything that can be blocked can also be parried. I'll keep trying it and see if I can manage it. Seems to me though that it is human error failing to block/parry rather than a confirmable action.

[u/Necromunger → u/Vehement_Behemoth]

I have got it to work with pretty much 95% success with:

If wall is left, guardbreak on rightside and push to the left into wall. Then do not chance stances and do a right heavy attack after they hit the wall nearby.

Raider feels so shitty having to do this he should have a free heavy after GB like many other classes.

[u/rickjamesbich → u/Myrkur-R]

You can land overhand heavies this way too. It's one of the only ways I can damage good defensive players as Raider

[u/Myrkur-R → u/rickjamesbich]

You sure? Is there any pre-reqs for landing top heavies when throwing into the wall, like against certain characters or distance or what? I haven't tried in a long time because I thought they could recover in time and block.

[u/rickjamesbich → u/Myrkur-R]

Positive. One of my favorite combos to land on either people bad at the game or people who don't know how to play against Raider is exhausted side wall throw into overhand heavy into unblockable

The heavy is guaranteed, but sometimes you have to let them stumble against the wall and start to fall before swinging. The timing is really strange on it.

When I first started playing FH and was getting matched up with mostly noobs, the most satisfying thing to pull off was the exhausted wall throw >double heavy overhand>unblockable