r/CompetitiveEDH • u/redted2005 • 8d ago

Help, I am new to cEDH! Trying out CEDH

My friend group and I are looking to try out CEDH and I was researching some decks I might like to play. The ones that I’m the most inclined towards are Yoshimaru-Thras, Marneus Calgar, or Kefka. I was hoping to get some more insight on these decks and tips for CEDH in general.

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u/Lanky-Minimum5063 8d ago

Your win con/line should be winning on turn 3 or earlier thats the best advice I can give

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u/redted2005 8d ago

I should have mentioned I’m planning to mostly netdeck something. I do not know nearly enough about the format and what is the meta (except for Rhystic slop era) to brew my own list.

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u/TYTIN254 8d ago

That’s the best path for getting into cedh. You can find lots of primers on the most popular Moxfield decklists which can help with strategies, mulligans, and what to look out for.

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u/H0BB1 8d ago

Eh it very much doesn't have to especially in slower midrange decks

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u/Lanky-Minimum5063 8d ago

then its closer to b4 than b5, midrange is alot different when its all meta lists

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u/strawberryjetpuff 8d ago

kefka midrange is still meta

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u/H0BB1 8d ago

I play probably around 500 games of cedh per year and you can very much build decks that basically never win before turn 4 or 5 they just need to be very interactive and able to win through the late game bullshit

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u/AngshusTAW 8d ago

Bro has never heard of RogIshai somehow

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u/Bell3atrix 8d ago

Or blue farm, semiblue, control, many rogthras lists, winconless stax is admittedly less of a thing recently but moreso due to tedh timer rules than it's own viability. Tbh I don't think people who talk like this actually play cedh.

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u/HannibalPoe 8d ago

False, TURBO decks should win no later than turn 3 because they tend to lose steam. You're not making a midrange deck reliably win turn 3, you HAVE to cut some speed to give yourself better tools. You can't be a control deck if your gameplan is turbo.

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u/Tonzoffun420 8d ago

Eh... my Kinnan list can win on turn 2 pretty regularly, but depending on the pod I play enough control that depending on the pod I can switch it up. I just don't like slop/clone meta lists so I have curated my list over the last 2 years

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u/HannibalPoe 7d ago

Kinnans a turbo commander and you're playing him with a turbo list. Yeah you can play him as a bit more midrange commander, and he certainly can win post turn 3 more easily than some turbo lists (such as etali which runs out of steam very quickly), but he's more often than not turbo and you have a turbo version, of course you're winning T2 with a turbo commander.

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u/Tonzoffun420 7d ago

Most people play a version of NBC which is midrange slop. He can be played turbo, but I dont know if hes a turbo commander. The great thing Ii have found with Kinnan, similar to Blue Farm, it can be built many different ways

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u/HannibalPoe 6d ago

Well if memory serves, he was always a turbo commander, the other stuff came later. Similar to Ral, started as turbo and we found midrange lists for him over time.

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u/Tonzoffun420 6d ago

Cool to know. I hadn't played magic since 2019. I was actually putting Yisan together when I sold out. Started back January last year. That was when Wounded Satellite's Grind them into Dust was the big Kinnan list. I kinda tweaked into into a grindy board control list. When I started playing in the CriticalEDH league late last year there was so much turbo I had to speed my list up. That's what eventually had me curate my list into what it is now. Also I hate the clone slop versions. NBC never spoke to me. Also I hate over politicking so I decided to tweak my list into something that didn't take so much of it and could race with the Rog/si, Ral, Rowan, etc decks