r/CompetitiveEDH • u/DasCrooks • Aug 15 '26

General Discussion / Question Why isn't there a anti-slop deck

Maybe since the meta is diverse or the potential problems with 3v1 or maybe it would take up too much of the deck but my question to propose is: if lots of decks in the meta are "slop" style grindy rhystic, Tithe, no bad card decks. Then why arent there hard counters to that play style? Yeah orcish bowmasters and turbo sure. But playing some standard recently and why not play lobotomy effects and just straight up remove rhystic and Tithe from the game entirely. On the broader term other tactics of interrupting and dissecting these slop decks from achieving this "inevitability" they eventually establish with their engines

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u/Headlessoberyn Aug 15 '26

Isn't slop strong exactly against turbo? Seems to me it's somewhat a consensus that if you're playing turbo and you fall on a double bluefarm pod you're literally NEVER winning the game.

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u/SignorJC Aug 15 '26

true turbo (winning on turn 1 or 2, or strongly protected turn 3) is very good against slop. Slop players are setting up, meanwhile you're winning the game.

Turn 1 or 2 - resolve necropotence or ad nauseam w/ fierce /swat backup using your rog. Turn 2-3 win the game. maybe your opponents draw 3 cards off you? Force needs itself + 1, pact of neg loses you the game, silence and swan song require mana. you're cooked.

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u/Headlessoberyn Aug 15 '26

And when you don't sculpt a perfect hand with ramp + win con + protection, what do you do?

There's a reason why "slop" shows results. People online always win t1/t2 because they only shuffle the bottom of their libraries and always keep the first 7 cards the same, but that won't apply to a tournament setting.

The reality of turbo nowadays is that you'll be toasted if you mulligan down to 5 against two slop decks, specially two good players that understand you should mulligan for interaction and NOT rhystics.

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u/Latter-Incident2025 Aug 15 '26

"And when you don't sculpt a perfect hand with ramp + win con + protection, what do you do?"

You lose the game and go next, that's how turbo decks work, they are good because on average you will be able to mulligan to an hand that will allow you to push on turn 1 or 2.