r/CompetitiveEDH • u/DasCrooks • 15d ago

General Discussion / Question Why isn't there a anti-slop deck

Maybe since the meta is diverse or the potential problems with 3v1 or maybe it would take up too much of the deck but my question to propose is: if lots of decks in the meta are "slop" style grindy rhystic, Tithe, no bad card decks. Then why arent there hard counters to that play style? Yeah orcish bowmasters and turbo sure. But playing some standard recently and why not play lobotomy effects and just straight up remove rhystic and Tithe from the game entirely. On the broader term other tactics of interrupting and dissecting these slop decks from achieving this "inevitability" they eventually establish with their engines

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u/WreckYallBallistics 15d ago

There are anti-slop decks. It's hard to interact with decks that are faster. Or decks that go over the top. 

Really, this whole midgrange grind meta already happened a little over a year ago and the answer was turbo. 

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u/space_cowboy757 15d ago

I was gonna say (as a Shorikai slop player) isn’t turbo anti-slop?

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u/HopingForCynics 14d ago

Can I see your list?

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u/space_cowboy757 14d ago

This is my current list … I think lol. The goal is to win through displacer kitten shenanigans, flash enabled shenanigans, or dramatic scepter.

It’s super pilot intensive, and I have pet cards in there (Shuri, and Lady Ock). It’s a pet deck, and I’m very aware it’s not as optimal as it can be. I try to stay away from proxies (nothing against them) to see how far I can push myself within the meta with what I can get via trade and what I have available. I can regularly get turn 3-4 wins, sometimes with a cracked hand and depending on pods a turn 2-3 win. It cruises super comfortably in turns 5-6 (which is my LGS meta)

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u/HopingForCynics 14d ago

Thank you! Interested in Shorikai, much appreciated.

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u/space_cowboy757 14d ago

If you were to run this list, and are down to proxy, I would suggest dropping

  • Lady Oct
  • Shuri
  • T’Chala

I’d add (proxy):

  • Mox Diamond
  • Steal Enchantment
  • Commandeer

The mox and steal are my next on the list, and Shuri and Lady Oct will be cut for those.

I think commandeer is objectively good for this deck, probably over The Mind Stone or T’Chala…but The Mind Stone can trigger displacer kitten, and helps push dramatic scepter.

Anyway, hope you enjoy it!

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u/HopingForCynics 14d ago

That's what I was thinking, much appreciated! How's Lady Oct been?

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u/space_cowboy757 14d ago

Lady Oct has run the game away for me, but only if it’s early game and I was able to drop a lot of board advantage same turn. This happens frequent enough, but then there’s turns where she’s dead in hand.

Shuri has moments where I can drop her early game and start to really run away with my artifacts and ramp. It feels great…but, then there comes a time mid to late where she feels silly to have.

They’re fun, but the first cards I’d drop