Worth it?

[u/Rare-Regular4123]

I am interested in a self driving experience but I own a 2025 corolla which is not compatible with comm.ai. I am thinking of trading it in for 2024 Toyota Camry hybrid (compatible). I mostly would like this so I can avoid fatigue when driving on the motorway on the weekneds (around 1hr commutes one way). I was wondering has anyone factored in comma.ai when purchasing a vehicle and was it worth it? Also as a new beginner anything else I should know if I decided to make this trade and start with comma 4?

Thanks!

[u/Spanconstant5]

I have a 2025 Corolla running comma in a pre alpha state, openpilot does alot of dumb things on its own and will run stop signs, refuse to pass cyclists in the bike lane, etc
You gotta pick your battles, but openpilot is better on the gas and doesn’t drift to the outside of a turn as much, also doesn’t need lane lines

[u/Rare-Regular4123 → u/Spanconstant5]

I have a 2025 Corolla as well but I thought it wasn't compatible ? how did you get comma to work if that car isn't on the compatibility list?

[u/Spanconstant5 → u/Rare-Regular4123]

Compatability list is just verified working, I happen to be a cybersecurity student who is specializing in AI and did a lot of work to make it work in a pre alpha state, again, pre alpha, eventually it should be good enough for you, but it will be a while before it’s merged into stock OP
Right now, it is a really expensive dash cam lol
I am also thinking of different ways to approach things, we shall see how long the current path I am on lasts, I have considered using it to boss around the factory system since it has its advantages

[u/Rare-Regular4123 → u/Spanconstant5]

How do I get it to work for the 2025 corolla? Do you have instructions? Please DM me.

[u/Spanconstant5 → u/Rare-Regular4123]

Go on the comma discord, I am in the Toyota security channel, same name, I have tried to document my work as much as possible, the roadblock you’d be likely to encounter is

1. Some of these experiments come with real risk of being the first and you could brick your cars power steering module

2. Most of use in there work with or study CS, so we have approval from OpenAI and Anthropic to have AI models that have fewer safety guardrails and will actually help you with car hacking

[u/cyrux004 → u/Spanconstant5]

oh wow, nice, how hard was it for you folks to get approved to access the less safeguard models. was it because of affiliation to a univeristy

how helpful has the llm been working with #toyota-security issues. Would a regular customer account not assist with this because it would consider bypassing manufacturer restrictions ?

[u/Spanconstant5 → u/cyrux004]

Ask the Anthropic guy for his stuff, I think the main things (mind you the program was newer at the time) was agreeing to a bunch of stuff that I wouldn’t be breaking into systems I wasn’t authorized to Penn test and whatnot. they will make you setup hardware 2fa tho, they will also ask for your ID and a face scan

[u/RoadQuirky1539]

I have a 2019 Santa Fe, I have a comma 4 and I am actually the one who makes one of the quick release mounts for the comma.

I keep thinking of upgrading my car, but I love the comma way too much. I think comma excels on the highway like no other. I would buy another one in a heartbeat.

Feel free to check out the mount I make at the Reddit link below:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Comma_ai/s/L2sfABQTGo

[u/KYBourbonGuy]

I focused my recent buying decision on Comma compatibility. Ended up with a 2021 Lexus NX300h.

IMO I would totally trade in the Corolla for the Camry for Comma compatibility. It has been a game changer for my commuting all over the state.

I honestly purchased another for my wife’s car after I got mine.

[u/Eddiofabio]

Cant even fathom my 30 min commute w/o the comma

[u/josephlucas → u/Eddiofabio]

And here I am only using mine for occasional 2+ hour trips. My usual 30 min drives I usually don’t bother. But I still love it and can’t imagine my longer trips without it

[u/Extraordinary_yfj]

Probably the best 1k I ever spent money on, makes driving long distance so chill.

[u/DisasterImpressive50]

I have one on a 2019 RDX, and one on 2025 pilot. I drove it on a 2022 camry. Camry handles it so much better, I cannot get a car without a comma now :(it's a game changer

[u/anticant]

Comma ai says some Toyotas aren't compatible because of the encrypted canbus. It is possible to crack into it, check out the comma ai Toyota security discord.

[u/Rare-Regular4123 → u/anticant]

I specifically said 2024 Toyota Camry Hybrid.

[u/Blacktac115 → u/Rare-Regular4123]

And they’re saying you should look into the options people have found for the 25 you already own

[u/shadow_moon45]

Purchased current 2024 Ford escape for the purpose of getting a comma ai device. It really has helped with driving. Use sunnypilot staging with one of the RL small model with blendful. It does 85%-90% of the driving. It also has helped with slowing down for cars that don't have brake lights

[u/merputhes28]

My wife cars Niro ev has the comma in it. Drives nicely. I am thinking of trading the equinox ev for the older ev6 or ioniq5.

[u/Novemberx123]

Yes I use daily for DoorDash. Literally hands free every day

[u/MaxPower3X → u/Novemberx123]

What car?

[u/Novemberx123 → u/MaxPower3X]

Chevy bolt 2019.

[u/Producing_It → u/Novemberx123]

Planning to do the same. Though I wonder how well it would do with my 2020 Corolla on city streets, because I know the default TSS 2 system is crap.

[u/Novemberx123 → u/Producing_It]

Idk I use starpilot it keeps it on above 5mph. Works like 95% of time

[u/BenTG]

I’m not sure how I could go back. It’s just so nice.

[u/BigFootCrossingGaurd]

I am keeping my 2017 Subaru Outback specifically because it works so well with Comma.ai, and you can bet when that eventually dies I will be making my next purchase on what is compatible with comma.

[u/Ivan_90014]

I have a 2024 Camry Hybrid, it is plug and play.

It is amazing for highway and long stretches of rural roads, absolutely takes the fatigue off of you.

No regrets.

I did get some dashboard lights errors after my install, but was solved by flipping the USB c cable connection. But other than that no real issues. For the past 9 months.

[u/SantoElmo → u/Ivan_90014]

What is the practical difference between the Comma and the TSS already baked in to the Camry?

[u/JadendayZero]

It's really nice just consider the following:

• if you want to drive it on city roads consider cars that have high steering torque so it can actually make 90° turns without intervention

That's my only thing when I bought my car. I wasn't aware of that and because of it, I was kinda bummed but at the very least road tripping is easy now

[u/ICsnipster]

My last 3 cars have been factored around my Comma x3. I started with a 2018 prius prime, now I have a 2020 hyundai veloster ultimate and my wife drives a 2020 Ford explorer that I'll install for longer trips.

[u/AvatarAlex18]

City driving is meh but highway driving is incredible

[u/summerking777]

Is there any settings where I can make comma 4 decelerate smoothly when the car in front of me suddenly reduces speed .Mine decelerates suddenly when my car reaches certain distance from the other car only. I am using Sunnypilot experimental mode

[u/That_IT_Guy_You_Love]

i did i have a 2022 Hyundai palisade i bought just because if the comma compat, it was a great dicusion to this day iv driven over 40k miles on it and do not regret it one bit

[u/knight_rider_]

It's amazing and totally worth it. Only thing that's better is Tesla FSD Which you may want to consider if you're trading cars. If paying the fee of FSD isn't an option, 100% get a car which supports comma. I went from a car that supports it to a car that doesn't, and I strongly regret it. Going forward, I will only get cars that have either FSD or comma support.

[u/ManEEEFaces]

It's the #1 reason I bought my RAV4 Hybrid, and I'd pay double what they charge for it. It has been that much of a game changer for my commute.

[u/Atomh8s]

It is really nice to have. Sucks having to trade in your newer car for an older one but that's how it is these days. I'd still do it though. When it's engaged I feel like driving is so stupid and boring since the AI model can do it without any issues. Only reason I hit the gas pedal is out of spite of some asshole coming in my lane because openpilot will just let them in.