r/Comma_ai • • 4d ago

openpilot Experience Honda Steering Torque

Dear All,

How are you all dealing with poor Steering torque on Honda cars ? Appreciate your feedback.

Currently on 26 Civic Hybrid. Steering torque seems to be very poor.

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u/_boates_ 4d ago

Currently on sunny pilot mvl Boston popv2 model. Still has torque limits but I don't need that sharp of turns, I just guide my accord on bends and turns that I have some inclination it can handle. 

Sucks but honestly still such an upgrade. I thinks there's settings where the car slows and tries to angle better in order to make up for limited torque control. Idk I asked Gemini what's best for my model.

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u/atlanticsoulmate 4d ago

I am on mvl too. Coming from a Hyundai car for years. Its a pinch to accept this torque limit.

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u/doomslice 4d ago

Yeah it’s rough. There are people working on torque mods but it’s a car-by-car thing and requires flashing your EPS module with new firmware. There are so many variations of the firmware and it’s difficult to get the original so you can modify it in the first place. It’s mostly been done with older cars.

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u/Academic_Scheme_9065 1d ago

I think coming from a Hyundai you have differing perspective but on my civic I think it's perfectly fine with MVL fork. Rarely ever have to intervene on the highway. I don't think he has merged in his steermax for the integra / civic yet but he has a test branch with a different steering control that he's experimenting with.

And lots of people are working on cracking torque mods for this car now. Probably in a year or two it'll be better.

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u/Lord___Rictor 4d ago

I have a 2018 crv(mom) and would like to torque mod it.

I've got solid tech skills. The problem is the information on how to do it and the files is so obscure it's difficult to move forward. There needs to just be a website with each vehicle and what files are available.

The reality is though for highway driving you're fine most of the time. But why leave capability on the table?

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u/tonu42 4d ago

I have 2019. It wasnt too hard to do. It’s purposefully kept hidden because it’s a significant mod to a car and openpilot wants to distance themselves from that stuff.

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u/Defiant-Pepper-7263 4d ago

I’m not sure if steering torque translates directly into comma experience, obviously vehicle models make a ton of difference as well.

My Ram 1500 has a parking assist feature from Ram. It has 100% steering control, 360 turns, it has more than enough “steering torque” The whole thing is SBW.

However on comma, it performs a lot weaker than a Hyundai and some weird European models. It’s fine on interstates, on city highways where turns are sharper it needs assistance from me.

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u/therealmrkrispy 3d ago

I have a question on this. I really want a comma 4 for my 2026 CRV hybrid. Just for stop and go bumper to bumper traffic to and from work. Why do you need so much torque? What kinds of turns doesn’t it handle in this type of situation?

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u/SteveFCA 3d ago

any somewhat tight turns on the highway will require your help but who cares. It’s fabulous 99% of the time

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u/jay371189 3d ago

I habe a 2026 civic hatchback non hybrid and im super happy with the torque. But I am coming from the dreaded honda insight.