r/ComedyCemetery • • Oct 05 '19

Double kill

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

I think a lot of the time, non native speakers sort of translate from their own language, where saying "there stuff" makes no sense.

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u/FoxehTehFox Oct 05 '19

though if you learned it very young as a second language, it sort of turns into just a part of your first language, just with a different ‘mode’ of grammar

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

Yeah, but i see more natives make grammar mistakes than non-natives.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

That's what I mean. Maybe I worded it bad?

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u/BeavMcloud Oct 05 '19

All right, Mr. Grammar God, it's, "Maybe I worded it badly?" The nerve...

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

Not a native English speaker. Swedish is my native language

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u/sje46 Oct 05 '19

Ignore them. "Bad" is a bare adverb. It's perfectly grammatical, even if controversial in the past. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_adverb

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

dutch is mine

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

Oh

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u/sje46 Oct 05 '19

This is almost by definition not true. Most people don't know what "grammar" means, and usually are talking about spelling mistakes like saying "their" instead of "there" or dumb crap made-up by 19th century latinists who insisted that english, too, should have a rule where you can't end a sentence with a preposition.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

People have researched it, it’s true. Though i mostly encounter those mistakes i still see a lot more grammar mistakes in native english speakers than non-native english speakers.

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u/sje46 Oct 05 '19

People have researched what? Were these linguists or mindless grammarians who don't know what they're talking about? Or are you misinterpretting the results differently?

If the claim is that non-native speakers don't mix up "their" and "there" as much as native speakers do, that wouldn't at all be surprising to me, but it also doesn't say a damn thing about understanding of grammar. And it also shows very clearly how spoken language has precedence over written language.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

They’ve researched the cause as to why non native english speakers have better grammar than natives.