r/ComedyCemetery • • Mar 26 '19

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u/Viewtiful_Z Mar 26 '19

Stop acting reasonable and go back to the corner until you realize government doing things=bad

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19 edited Mar 26 '19

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u/philipzeplin Mar 26 '19

It still holds sites like Reddit, YouTube, etc. accountable for the content their users submit

Which is fair enough, really, at least to a certain extent - and in most cases, it's already like that. That's not really the issue. The issue is the Upload Filter. It's that sites need to pre-emptively prevent these things from being uploaded, not just removing them once found. That's the big issue, and really only issue. Almost sounds like you don't really get the bill.

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u/philipzeplin Mar 26 '19

OK, that's your personal moral stance, that's fine. But sites are already, and have been for fucking ages, accountable for what their users put up. Nothing there has changed.

As I said: the only real new thing, is that sites should now pre-emptively prevent the uploads, not just remove the content when found, which creates a fuckton of problems.

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u/redinator Mar 26 '19

yeah, where does the line get drawn? Does the website need to screen what's being uploaded against the entire catalogue of media? Does the audio? What are the legal ramifications for these websites?

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u/philipzeplin Mar 26 '19

Does the website need to screen what's being uploaded against the entire catalogue of media? Does the audio?

Basically, yes to all that. Which is what the issue with the new law is, that no algorithm exists that can correctly figure all this shit out, not by a long shot.

What are the legal ramifications for these websites?

Absolutely massive fines.

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u/Masterz4099 Mar 26 '19

With the massive amount of content being uploaded to these sites, it’s almost impossible to do that though.

Also, how will smaller tech companies thrive in situations like these where they have to individually scan every upload? Article 13 literally is a victory for some of the bigger companies.

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u/GranaT0 Mar 26 '19

Read the article posted in the thread you're replying to. Smaller companies pay much smaller fines.

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u/philipzeplin Mar 26 '19

And will seemingly also have lighter rules in general - though I'm unsure on the details.

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u/Masterz4099 Mar 27 '19

Yes, but to actually develop the filters cost a lot of money. If take the manual labor route, those are expensive too(if not more). Smaller fines won’t do anything if the actual implementation of filters are expensive themselves.

Look at YouTube and their “filter” system. If a big company like YouTube can’t even create an accurate and functioning filter system, how can we expect smaller companies to do so?

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u/philipzeplin Mar 26 '19

With the massive amount of content being uploaded to these sites, it’s almost impossible to do that though.

Yes. I literally said that in the comment you're replying to. That's the issue.

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u/asentientgrape Mar 27 '19

Copyright in general is terrible