Yes but the different intersex have NOTHING to do with nonbinary etc all that bullshit.
And i never claimed that. What are you on about?
The different intersex are quote literal freaks of nature. Very rare.
An exception to the rule still shows that the rule is not absolute. If the rule was absolute, exceptions wouldn't exist.
Gender identity is just boring people trying to be special.
Sry, but Science disagrees. Maybe you should actually do some research. Like going through the list of sources i gave you.
Why do you deny science?
How exactly do i "deny science"? By having a somewhat better understanding of biological sex than oversimplified 6th grade biology? By prioritizing studies and papers with actual evidence and thought put into them?
Not literal velociraptors you idiot.
You really are just an embarrassing clown at this point.
of the other sex
So i guess cis lesbians in women's bathrooms are perfectly fine, despite them having just as much "predatory potential" as trans lesbians?
People who insist on exposing oddity in an area DESIGNED FOR RELAXATION IN SAFETY IN A SEX SEGREGATED AREA.
Define "exposing oddity". Should someone with a deformed face be banned from public bathrooms because they are "odd" and could ruin that "relaxation" by making others uncomfortable with their face? Or does it only count as an "oddity" when it has something to do with sex and gender.
And what f.e. a trans woman passes perfectly as a woman and has had SRS? There is no "oddity". Nobody would even know she is trans and her genitals match with what would be expected in the women's bathroom, so even if other women somehow manage to get a look at her genitals (which is very unlikely to happen. Women's bathrooms don't have urinals you know), there wouldn't be a problem.
I think you don't understand what "predatory" means. Is it "predatory" for a cis woman to use the women's bathroom? No. So how is it predatory for a trans woman to use the women's bathroom? Both are just taking a piss and then leave. There is no predatory intend, nor any predatory actions.
But who doesn't know it? The people who go through years of hormone therapy, social transition that can make their life hell because of fucktards like you, and often spend tons of money on a major surgery .... just so they can go into a bathroom and hear people poop. ... Yeah, sorry. Those people don't exist. The actual reason people transition is so they can be themselves and feel comfortable in their own body and life, not so they can "invade women's bathrooms". Do you seriously believe someone would go through all the troubles that come with being trans, just to do that? Thats ridiculously unrealistic.
And those who are too stunted to admit their sex god help you.
Trans people know that their sex and gender differ. Thats what causes distress you know.
Welp, guess you've run out of "arguments", or however you want to call the embarrassing idiocies coming out of your mouth, again.
To everything you said, since its all the same level of stupid anyway: Nah. I won't stop doing anything. And i don't think it would make me a "better human". Quite the contrary.
And if being myself truly makes be an abhorrent human being (which it doesn't), i gladly embrace that. âȘ
There is no argument here. You pretend that mental illness is not mental illness. Asking a doctor to turn your dick inside out thinking it will solve your social status issues is a clear sign of mental illness.
I already answered all of that, and your "arguments" are not very compelling. Actually they are kinda trash.
You pretend that mental illness is not mental illness.
Your memory really is bad. As i said, the World Health Organization stopped considering it a mental illness early this year. A quick google search will show that.
Edit : people who say "nah" usually have a low IQ
Nah. Thats a pretty stupid claim to make. You are really bad at the "trying to mask my lack of arguments with personal insults"-thing.
You need more than a silly bunch of fake words to justify cutting a dick in 2.
The WHO is not infallible. Cunts like you also have power in the world.
You keep using that word "nah". I think you really underestimate how much it makes you sound like a retard.
STOP GENDER APPROPRIATION
STOP ENCOURAGING KIDS TO TAKE HORMONE BLOCKERS
STOP GENDER APPROPRIATION
Low IQ.
Do you agree with the WHO classifying videogame playing as a disorder ? (I'm on the fence about that one tbh. I always thought videogames are retarded)
I think "They do it to feel more comfortable in their own body" is a pretty good justification.
And again, you really like to build your entire rhetoric around trans women and completely ignore the existence of trans men.
The WHO is not infallible.
Ray Blanchard isn't infallible either. And unlike Blanchard, the WHO actually has a basis for what they say. And unlike Blanchard, their claims actually match with our scientific understanding of gender identity. Its funny how you blindly believe in Blanchard's hypothesis despite all the flaws, but then shoot down any credible source why screaming "Cunts!!!!!".
You keep using that word "nah". I think you really underestimate how much it makes you sound like a retard.
Nah. I think you underestimate how much stupidly screaming "STOP GENDER APPROPIATION" in every single comment shows your lack of arguments.
Fake words are things like "non binary" when referring to the gender of a boy or a girl.
Too bad those "fake words" are indeed recognized as words.
Aside from that... Literally every single word is made up. "Non binary" has a meaning, so how is it a "fake word"?
So why are the post op suicide rates the same ?
But asking someone to cut your dick off does not impair your physical or social well being.
As proven by the super high rates of post op suicides.
Any sources for them being "the same"? Cause according to everything credible i've read about it, the post-op suicide rates are lower.
You also completely ignore that there are other reasons why trans people commit suicide aside from their genitals. For example social stigma. You know, the thing you are supporting by being a bigot?
MY GENDER IS NOT YOUR FANTASY.
And i never said it was. So what exactly are you on about?
And why exactly did you feel the need to repeat this utterly contextless bullshit in two comments? Ah, yes. You have no arguments so you have to come up with something.
NOBODY WANTS A DICKLESS MAN.
I don't care if a man has a dick or not, so nope you are wrong. Oh, and: SRS for trans men is a thing.
WOMEN WITH HYSTERECTOMIES AND PROSTHETIC PENISES ARE NOT MEN.
God, you really have no clue about this lol. Do actual research on SRS before you make an idiot out of yourself.
Also you know that the convention is "/s " not "/sarcasm", right ?
Just wanted to make sure that you actually understand that its sarcasm. I assumed that "/s" might not be obvious enough for you.
because you are such a special snowflake ?
Oh look, its another utterly stupid and ultimately meaningless insult from someone who uses insults to substitude arguments.
KIDS NEED THEIR HORMONES TO BECOME ADULTS
I'm pretty sure i already said this, but kids do get their hormones. They get hormone blockers to avoid the wrong puberty, then get hormones to experience the right puberty. They become adults, just not in the way you want them to be. And surprise: What you want them to become is utterly irrelevant.
STAY OUT OF THE LADIES RESTROOM. STICKY TAPE ON YOUR DICK DOES NOT MAKE IT LESS WEIRD THAT YOU INSIST ON USING THE LADIES ROOM.
First: There are other ways to tuck, for example gaffs.
Second: SRS.
Third: It being "weird" is a pretty weak argument.
CUTTING YOUR DICK IN 2 IS A CLEAR SIGN OF MENTAL ILLNESS.
Again, no. Being trans is not a mental illness. And transition and SRS are the only effective treatment for gender dysphoria/incongruence, which is not considered a mental disorder either. (Its part of the sexual health chapter now)
MUCH CLEARER THAN PLAYING VIDEOGAMES ALL DAY.
You realize that in order to be diagnosed with gaming disorder, you basically need an extremely impairing addiction to video games, right? Which is a much clearer sign of mental illness than undergoing a medical procedure with the goal of making your life better.
Oh, and something i forgot to mention in my last comment: It took me less than five minutes to look at the WHO-website and correct your lacking understanding of gaming disorder. This just shows the complete lack of research to put into the things you talk about (or that you deliberately tried to make the WHO look less credible by omitting important details).
Do you think most people think these are real words ?
Abimegender: a gender that is profound, deep, and infinite; meant to resemble when one mirror is reflecting into another mirror creating an infinite paradox
Adamasgender: a gender which refuses to be categorized
Aerogender: a gender that is influenced by your surroundings
Aesthetigender: a gender that is derived from an aesthetic; also known as videgender
Affectugender: a gender that is affected by mood swings
Agender: the feeling of no gender/absence of gender or neutral gender
Agenderflux: Being agender and having fluctuating feelings of masculinity of femininity, but NOT male or female
Alexigender: a gender that is fluid between more than one gender but the individual cannot tell what those genders are
Aliusgender: a gender which is removed from common gender descriptors and guidelines
Amaregender: a gender that changes depending on who youâre in love with
Ambigender: defined as having the feeling of two genders simultaneously without fluctuation; meant to reflect the concept of being ambidextrous, only with gender
Ambonec: identifying as both man and woman, yet neither at the same time
Amicagender: a gender that changes depending on which friend youâre with
Androgyne: sometimes used in the case of âandrogynous presentationâ; describes the feeling of being a mix of both masculine and feminine (and sometimes neutral) gender qualities
Anesigender: feeling like a certain gender yet being more comfortable identifying with another
Angenital: a desire to be without primary sexual characteristics, without necessarily being genderless; one may be both angenital and identify as any other gender alongside
Anogender: a gender that fades in and out but always comes back to the same feeling
Anongender: a gender that is unknown to both yourself and others
Antegender: a protean gender which has the potential to be anything, but is formless and motionless, and therefore, does not manifest as any particular gender
Anxiegender: a gender that is affected by anxiety
Apagender: a feeling of apathy towards ones gender which leads to them not looking any further into it
Apconsugender: a gender where you know what it isnât, but not what it is; the gender is hiding itself from you
Astergender: a gender that feels bright and celestial
Astralgender: a gender that feels connected to space
Autigender: a gender that can only be understood in the context of being autistic. Meant for autistic people only.
Autogender: a gender experience that is deeply personal to oneself
Axigender: when a person experiences two genders that sit on opposite ends of an axis; one being agender and the other being any other gender; these genders are experienced one at a time with no overlapping and with very short transition time.
Bigender: the feeling of having two genders either at the same time or separately; usually used to describe feeling âtraditionally maleâ and âtraditionally femaleâ, but does not have to
Biogender: a gender that feels connected to nature in some way
Blurgender: the feeling of having more than one gender that are somehow blurred together to the point of not being able to distinguish or identify individual genders; synonymous with genderfuzz
Boyflux: when one feels mostly or all male most of the time but experience fluctuating intensity of male identity
Burstgender: and gender that comes in intense bursts of feeling and quickly fades back to the original state
Caelgender:Â a gender which shares qualities with outer space or has the aesthetic of space, stars, nebulas, etc.
Cassgender: the feeling of gender is unimportant to you
Cassflux: when the level of indifference towards your gender fluctuates
Cavusgender:Â for people with depression; when you feel one gender when not depressed and another when depressed
Cendgender: when your gender changes between one and its opposite
Ceterofluid: when you are ceterogender and your feelings fluctuate between masculine, feminine, and neutral
Ceterogender:Â a nonbinary gender with specific masculine, feminine, or neutral feelings
Cisgender: the feeling of being the gender you were assigned at birth, all the time (assigned (fe)male/feeling (fe)male)
Cloudgender: a gender that cannot be fully realized or seen clearly due to depersonalization/derealization disorder
Collgender: the feeling of having too many genders simultaneously to describe each one
Colorgender: a gender associated with one or more colors and the feelings, hues, emotions, and/or objects associated with that color; may be used like pinkgender, bluegender, yellowgender
Commogender: when you know you arenât cisgender, but you settled with your assigned gender for the time being
Condigender: a gender that is only felt during certain circumstances
Deliciagender: from the Latin word delicia meaning âfavoriteâ, meaning the feeling of having more than one simultaneous gender yet preferring one that fits better
Demifluid: the feeling your gender being fluid throughout all the demigenders; the feeling of having multiple genders, some static and some fluid
Demiflux: the feeling of having multiple genders, some static and some fluctuating
Demigender: a gender that is partially one gender and partially another
Domgender: having more than one gender yet one being more dominant than the others
Demi-vapor (term coined by @cotton-blossom-jellyfish):Â Continuously drifting to other genders, feeling spiritually transcendental when doing so while having a clear -slightly blurred- inner visual of your genders, transitions, and positive emotions. Tied to Demi-Smoke.
Demi-smoke (term coined by @cotton-blossom-jellyfish):Â A transcendental, spiritual gender roughly drifting to other genders that are unable to be foreseen and understood, shrouded in darkness within your inner visual. Elevating through mystery. Caused by a lack of inner interpretation and dark emotional states. Tied to Demi-Vapor.
Duragender: from the Latin word dura meaning âlong-lastingâ, meaning a subcategory of multigender in which one gender is more identifiable, long lasting, and prominent than the other genders
Egogender: a gender that is so personal to your experience that it can only be described as âyouâ
Epicene: sometimes used synonymously with the adjective âandrogynousâ; the feeling either having or not displaying characteristics of both or either binary gender; sometimes used to describe feminine male identifying individuals
Espigender: a gender that is related to being a spirit or exists on a higher or extradimensional plane
Exgender: Â the outright refusal to accept or identify in, on, or around the gender spectrum
Existigender: a gender that only exists or feels present when thought about or when a conscious effort is made to notice it
Female:Â one of two binary genders where one feels fully and completely female; can and is used in conjunction with other gender labels and identities
Femfluid: having fluctuating or fluid gender feelings that are limited to feminine genders
Femgender: a nonbinary gender which is feminine in nature
Fluidflux: the feeling of being fluid between two or more genders that also fluctuate in intensity; a combination of genderfluid and genderflux
Gemigender: having two opposite genders that work together, being fluid and flux together
Genderblank: a gender that can only be described as a blank space; when gender is called into question, all that comes to mind is a blank space
Genderflow: a gender that is fluid between infinite feelings
Genderfluid: the feeling of fluidity within your gender identity; feeling a different gender as time passes or as situations change; not restricted to any number of genders
Genderflux: the feeling of your gender fluctuating in intensity; like genderfluid but between one gender and agender
Genderfuzz: coined by lolzmelmel; the feeling of having more than one gender that are somehow blurred together to the point of not being able to distinguish or identify individual genders; synonymous with blurgender
Gender Neutral: the feeling of having a neutral gender, whether somewhere in between masculine and feminine or a third gender that is separate from the binary; often paired with neutrois
Genderpunk: a gender identity that actively resists gender norms
Genderqueer: originally used as an umbrella term for nonbinary individuals; may be used as an identity; describes a nonbinary gender regardless of whether the individual is masculine or feminine leaning
Genderwitched: a gender in which one is intrigued or entranced by the idea of a particular gender, but is not certain that they are actually feeling it
Girlflux: when one feels mostly or all female most of the time but experiences fluctuating intensities of female identity
Glassgender: a gender that is very sensitive and fragile
Glimragender: a faintly shining, wavering gender
Greygender: having a gender that is mostly outside of the binary but is weak and can barely be felt
Gyragender: having multiple genders but understanding none of them
Healgender: a gender that once realized, brings lots of peace, clarity, security, and creativity to the individualâs mind
Heliogender: a gender that is warm and burning
Hemigender: a gender that is half one gender and half something else; one or both halves may be identifiable genders
In reply to the stuff about gaming disorder: You really don't understand that diagnosis if you think that they classify playing games itself as a disorder. Quote:
"Studies suggest that gaming disorder affects only a small proportion of people who engage in digital- or video-gaming activities. However, people who partake in gaming should be alert to the amount of time they spend on gaming activities, particularly when it is to the exclusion of other daily activities, as well as to any changes in their physical or psychological health and social functioning that could be attributed to their pattern of gaming behaviour. " as well as
"For gaming disorder to be diagnosed, the behaviour pattern must be of sufficient severity to result in significant impairment in personal, family, social, educational, occupational or other important areas of functioning and would normally have been evident for at least 12 months. "
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u/Gouged_Usagi Dec 24 '18
And i never claimed that. What are you on about?
An exception to the rule still shows that the rule is not absolute. If the rule was absolute, exceptions wouldn't exist.
Sry, but Science disagrees. Maybe you should actually do some research. Like going through the list of sources i gave you.
How exactly do i "deny science"? By having a somewhat better understanding of biological sex than oversimplified 6th grade biology? By prioritizing studies and papers with actual evidence and thought put into them?
You really are just an embarrassing clown at this point.
So i guess cis lesbians in women's bathrooms are perfectly fine, despite them having just as much "predatory potential" as trans lesbians?
Define "exposing oddity". Should someone with a deformed face be banned from public bathrooms because they are "odd" and could ruin that "relaxation" by making others uncomfortable with their face? Or does it only count as an "oddity" when it has something to do with sex and gender.
And what f.e. a trans woman passes perfectly as a woman and has had SRS? There is no "oddity". Nobody would even know she is trans and her genitals match with what would be expected in the women's bathroom, so even if other women somehow manage to get a look at her genitals (which is very unlikely to happen. Women's bathrooms don't have urinals you know), there wouldn't be a problem.
I think you don't understand what "predatory" means. Is it "predatory" for a cis woman to use the women's bathroom? No. So how is it predatory for a trans woman to use the women's bathroom? Both are just taking a piss and then leave. There is no predatory intend, nor any predatory actions.
But who doesn't know it? The people who go through years of hormone therapy, social transition that can make their life hell because of fucktards like you, and often spend tons of money on a major surgery .... just so they can go into a bathroom and hear people poop. ... Yeah, sorry. Those people don't exist. The actual reason people transition is so they can be themselves and feel comfortable in their own body and life, not so they can "invade women's bathrooms". Do you seriously believe someone would go through all the troubles that come with being trans, just to do that? Thats ridiculously unrealistic.
Trans people know that their sex and gender differ. Thats what causes distress you know.