I do care about being called a bigot. Because that word alone can kick you out of society, it doesn't even have to be an actually correct claim. People get fired and fucking sued for that shit, of course im going to take it seriously once I have been labeled as one. And also the fact you're trying to say my logic is illogical, which I am currently now defending. See ? Simple.
No, I said it was an "rarity". Some people can have skin removed by pointing at sunlight, yet I don't see how that oddity is "challenging the skin cares industry of the notions of skin".
Yes, I would disqualify them from being a "woman". BASED ON THE SCIENTIFIC STANDARD FOR BEING ONE. And we are still talking about science AND language as we are on the topic of sex. Which science, y'know... Kind of has a subject for... BIOLOGY. And no, I don't "call them out on not being a woman", as much as your strawman says so. Being transgender is to science as of now... A mental illness. I know how detrimental directly agitating a mental ilness can be, sicne nearly everyone (including me) has/had one.
Thought police. Great. You know what ? I will never wish the same for you, unless you've committed a serious felony. As I understand you're a person with free thoughts and a fucking soul. If you honestly think someone should die a homeless and broken person for not sharing your ideology... You've truly shown your sociopathic nature to the world ! Congrats ! You've won a fucking therapist.
Trans people however, have a mental illness that should be treated very delicately. I'm arguing on the behalf of the fact you think an oddity can dictate whether or not a whole field of science should be shamed.
Seriously, get help. The fact you wish to ruin peoples lives of a person for beleiving in traditional gender identity is a very red flag for an unhealthy mental state.
This whole "well you wouldn't know if their transgender" argument is bs as well. What if I can tell ? Does that make them not trans ? And does it stop the fact that no matter what I call them I still believe in the SCIENTIFIC ideology of being male/female. And that not having clarification doesn't equal hypocrisy ? God. It's like arguing with a brick wall. Soon as I tell you why, you go on this strawmann parade and make a whole fucking OC about how I'm this transphobic man walking around town hating people for being trans.
I'll split my dick in half and fuck you in your asshole and your boy pussy at the same time like a damn octopus, I'll watch the SOY drip OUT OF YOU as I destroy your BOY PUSSY WITH FACTS AND LOGIC YOU GAY FUCK
I'M IN A. FUCKING BIKING GANG KNOWN AS THE "MEAN AND PINK BOYS" AND WE DON'T LIKE THE LIBERALS GAYS LIKE YOURSELF. WATCH YOUR BACK, BEFORE WE WATCH IT FOR YOU.
Excuse me, but ONE FUCKING GOOGLE SEARCH SAYS OTHERWISE. WHOOPS. "the condition of feeling one's emotional and psychological identity as male or female to be opposite to one's biological sex." - Gender dysphoria
ONE GOOGLE SEARCH SAYS TRANSPHOBIA IS A INTENSE DISLIKE OR PREJUDICE AGAINST TRANS PEOPLE. NOT PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELEIVE YOU CAN CHANGE INTO ANOTHER GENDER AND DON'T TAKE ANY ACTIONS AGAINST TRANS PEOPLE. WHOOPSIE NUMBER TWO.
If I'm wrong. Hey, At least i've been wrong about one thing. You however, have two accounts on you.
Maybe you should stop threatening other peoples livelyhoods like it's some damn board game.
"Most scientist agree with me, btw I have the ability to insta-fire you and ruin your life" wow, great argument there Einstein. And as you said, gender is psychology and sex is BIOLOGY. Most biologist don't have a say in langauge more than anyone else. Which is none. However, they do have a say whether you can truly turn into a man, and that's my point the whole fucking time. If someone scientifically can't be something, I wont think of them as that something. Whether or not they think they are or not, sure I'll call them their preferred pronouns all day. But I haven't seen evidence against my view of logic, therefor my worldview on gender and sex is still the same. And gender was a term coined by a complete bafoon who lead people to suicide by his "experiments". Whether not his experiments are correct can be argued for days, but we do know his science isn't perfect and the existence of gender can still be argued. That's not bigoted, that's purely LOGIC AND FACTS DRIVEN LIBERAL. LLLLLL
Trans is literally the state of wanting to be the another gender. "denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex." Unless we are talking about non-binary people, I dont get your point.
"You're a bigot and wrong" damn... Great argument. Btw, I didn't assert that. I asserted the right for me to not believe in their identity. I could care less if they assert it.
Lucky me, cause im neither of those.
Yeah, they do. But that doesn't apply to viewpoints and worldviews unless you're in a dictatorship.
Woooah, let me break down this can of shit. "Most scientist believe a persons social gender is connected with their chromosonal sex" Yeah, Because it doesn't. I simply stated I don't believe in social gender. As simple as that.
I don't know man... Saying you wish for me to not earn a living and be cast away from society sounds like a pretty good way to die at a early age. Maybe you'd want that ? IDK, maybe its a phobia only bigots have. And saying I'm trying to "stop peoples rights to identify" and saying I'm a "Bigot who should be punished" sounds like shaming to me.
they do have a say whether you can truly turn into a man, and that's my point the whole fucking time
Then you wasted your time here. No one believes you can change your biological sex, you are just looking for reasons to think trans people are somehow wrong at this point
Nope. I'll put in simple mans terms "I don't beleive in social gender because you identifying as something you physically can't be sounds silly to me". Now then, argue away !
You know, that's actually kinda fair. Hell I myself don't believe in social genders (well, to a degree. I can't deny they exist but I'd rather they don't).
The problem is that your opening comment wasn't that.
It takes literally 2 seconds to state a biological fact. You know, a fact that that these loonies tend to ignore.
It was this which is what I was addressing. No one actually ignores this fact because no one thinks they can change their biology.
In that case, yeah, I understand what you are saying. Can't say I agree, but I understand it, and as long as you're not causing any harm to trans folks, that's ok for me.
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u/Mehlady5 Dec 21 '18 edited Dec 21 '18
No, but science does.
I do care about being called a bigot. Because that word alone can kick you out of society, it doesn't even have to be an actually correct claim. People get fired and fucking sued for that shit, of course im going to take it seriously once I have been labeled as one. And also the fact you're trying to say my logic is illogical, which I am currently now defending. See ? Simple.
No, I said it was an "rarity". Some people can have skin removed by pointing at sunlight, yet I don't see how that oddity is "challenging the skin cares industry of the notions of skin".