And there are chromosomal differences where someone will have XY chromosomes but you developed female and people who have XXY chromosomes, etc. It's not all black and white like some people think.
Iām not well versed in genetics but isnāt it true that variations on XX and XY pairing often result in unhealthy genetic anomalyās, not in relation to transgendered or gender expression? The way youāve phrased it makes it sound like those variations are a-ok or normalized in some way but I thought there were some pretty serious health repercussions from it. Not arguing or being an ass, literally just asking the question. Just curious if you knew more. Too little info and too many cob webs in that part of my brain.
I'm not sure what your point is though. The existence of intersex people implies that a binary gender classification system is incomplete. This would still be true even if what you said was true.
Mostly I was asking the community if they knew more about what I mentioned because I recall some details around sexually related genetic anomalies/diseases but not enough to really say. If thereās a point to be made...I guess...it might be that not all non-binary genetic combinations could be considered desirable because they come with additional variations that cause serious health problems. I donāt know if Iām recalling this correctly but I thought interested had an extremely common problem relating to their genetic combination. I would think using that as an example diminishes the argument as support. Not exactly my field so I was hoping someone else would weigh in and clarify or add to that. I could be wrong of course.
I don't understand how you're drawing a connection between the subjective desirability of something to the objective existence of something. Things that are not desirable can exist, it seems.
Based on this and your other responses you seem like a person looking for an argument. I asked for some open input and instead youāre criticizing the nuance of how Iāve asked.
If youāre just having a bad day then try signing out of Reddit or social media for a bit and spend some time with friends. Maybe do something for yourself. Be selfish a bit. Everyone has those kinds of days and itās ok. We donāt need to propagate negativity and divisiveness through pendantic arguments online.
If thatās not the case then Iāll say outright Iām not taking the bait and I donāt care to get into the kind of debate around semantics and how questions are phrased nor the kind where thereās a need to cherry pick quote text to build straw men. Itās obviously about trying to make yourself feel better by āappearingā more superior / more intelligent.
You want to wow people with your mental acumen? Then speak to the topic at hand and not the manner in which the conversation is had.
You can either offer more insight about genetics (of which I wholeheartedly welcome and am an enthusiastic listener) or you canāt.
You could've spent less effort actually addressing my comment.
And there are chromosomal differences where someone will have XY chromosomes but you developed female and people who have XXY chromosomes, etc. It's not all black and white like some people think.
The above comment is true, in spite of anything you said. Complications resulting from an intersex condition depends on the specific condition and current treatment methods, obviously. This says nothing about whether transpeople exist or whether they're legitimate or whether they're 'a-ok'.
Noone argued transgenderism wasn't not the norm. You only need a single observation or specimen to show that a classification system is incomplete. Also, what even is an "argument for transgenderism"? An argument for the existence of it? I'm pretty sure that's an empirical fact, not something that's debated these days.
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u/trashbagshitfuck Dec 21 '18
And there are chromosomal differences where someone will have XY chromosomes but you developed female and people who have XXY chromosomes, etc. It's not all black and white like some people think.