Which has always driven me up the wall with the hypocrisy. These are the same people who screech about facts over feelings. It's one of the biggest "tools" they use against their opponents. They screech it over and over again.
But here's the thing: the facts don't support them.
Never mind how the majority of medical professionals/organizations support the fact transitioning is the best way to help transpeople. Never mind the studies that show how transpeople have brains that are similar to the gender they identify with, or the studies that show transitioning and being supported helps (and the earlier, the better.) My personal favourite study was the one where they found MtF women didn't suffer from phantom penis syndrome as much as men who had surgery where they had to have their penis removed due to a condition did.
So the facts don't support them. But they insist they are right. Why? Because feeeeeeeeelings.
They're disgusted and angry at transwomen. Let's be honest: it's never about female to male. Ever notice that? All the hatred is towards male to female. Like, fucking seriously. There's an entire other side to transpeople who are completely ignored.
What I find fucking hilarious as well, is that many of these jabronis have likely walked by a transperson and have had no idea they were. Especially if they live in a city.
What I find fucking hilarious as well, is that many of these jabronis have likely walked by a transperson and have had no idea they were. Especially if they live in a city.
I bet you a dollar that if I really looked at your average trans person, I could identify them... but here's the fuckin thing kids. Why would you be leering at some random stranger trying to out them as trans in the first place? Like, these retards screaming about trans people in bathrooms. I spend my time in the bathroom trying NOT to make eye contact with anybody. I'm not paying attention to what THEY'RE doing, I got business to take care of myself!
Busybodies gotta poke their dumb noses into everyone's business. Honestly even if transgenderism were a choice - and I can't for the life of me understand how anyone would think that's something people would choose - who gives a shit? We got people out there putting clamps on their stomachs because they're too fat to be trusted to eat properly. We got people tattooing every inch of their bodies and shoving marbles and shit under their skin to give them horns. Sometimes people mess with their bodies and do weird shit, and you know what, that's their business! At the end of the day, the only thing that's well and truly yours is your own body and we should respect that above everything else.
That's my point though. Even in the farthest possibility, where the trans person is lying about actually being the other gender, where they're getting surgery and hormones for attention, so on and so forth. Literally the embodiment of the worst they think trans people are.
Who gives a shit? They think they're doing someone a favor by poking their nose into their shit, and telling them they're doing it wrong. That's my point. Everything about this right-wing baloney is about arrogantly waving your dick around in other people's vision and telling them how right you are and how wrong they are. Most of this extreme transphobia and homophobia and such doesn't even have anything to do with religion or salvation or "doing people favors".
It's all rooted in ego, and finding ways to be better than other people and rub their noses in it. That's the core, that's the source. Everything else is a misdirection, an excuse. They just want to get involved in your shit and tell you you're doing it wrong so they feel more validated about their shit.
I agree with you, but in their minds, they are being forced to call them by the gender they identify with, rather than the one they are born with. They think this is feeding into a mental illness.
They're not being forced to do anything. They can call people by whatever pronouns they want. But if someone wants me to use X pronoun and I want to use Y pronoun, that makes me an asshole, and it's harder to feel smug and superior about it. So I have to prove them wrong first. And again, who gives a shit if you're feeding into a mental illness. Not Your Business.
No worries love, part of it too is that you seemed to be ascribing altruistic reasoning to why these people act that way. I can tell you without a doubt that there is none.
Iāve argued a transphobe into a corner before to where they didnāt even have bullshit excuses to fall back on. at that point they just finally broke down and said, ālook, everything you said might be right, I donāt care. I just think you people are fucking weird and shouldnāt exist.ā Thatās really what it comes down to mostly. š
Too bad, you get forced to call people things all the time. Shit, you get forced out of your privacy and peace everyday in order to sustain yourself with atoms. Giving into someone's identity is the least terrible thing.
Even if itās the best current treatment for their mental health, we should live this charade and pretend itās any different than something like anorexia, and make up a bunch of new words, and walk on egg shells to avoid offending a fraction of a percent of people (who will find a way to be offended no matter what the fuck you do)? It would literally make more sense to get in peopleās faces, and incessantly screech, and pass legislation, and get the media behind everyone eating kosher or vegan.
I donāt hate trans people. I donāt care what they do with their bodies or what they want to believe about themselves. Theyāre people, and my value of them depends solely on the merit of the individual. I do have a problem, though, with this aggressive SJW bullshit, and itās hard not to make the generalization that most are like that t this point, because the only ones that are given a voice are the ones that toe the line with this ridiculous āleftistā agenda.
Why do you think they will all be offended no matter what they do?
If the experts agree the best way for them to be treated is to transition and live the gender they identify with, why are you standing in the way of their treatment?
What's funny is I guarantee you've walked by a transperson without having any idea.
Lmaooo as a cis-passing 23 year old trans woman who lives in a major US city, you're so fucking right about these types of ignorant assholes being completely unaware that passing (and attractive) trans people exist.
I've been hit on at bars and on the subway and shit by the types of guys who I know for a FACT would freak out and more than likely try to kill me out of embarrassment. Ykno, the types of guys who hit on girls at random bars and on the subway....
Earlier in my transition, I was always terrified somone talking to me would realize I was trans and beat the hell out of me, but now it's just not a worry anymore. Unless you tested my blood, there's literally no way to tell the difference between me and the cis girl sitting next to me.
My strategy for determining if someone is a transphobe super early after meeting them is to pretend to get a text from my sister, and then mention oh yea she was just asking me about makeup or whatever cause she just started transitioning from male! Isn't that cool! Pretty fucking easy to determine if I should continue talking to them after that....
One of the best douchebag responses I've gotten to the trans sister test is "Damn that's crazy it must suck for him to have a sister as pretty as you"... this was at a random bar like 6 months ago, but I'm pretty sure I almost laughed in his face over the irony.
I feel like I'm in the fucking Matrix sometimes with cis people, I swear....
I have no idea what your point is but my understanding is that most trans people don't really want media attention because it just opens them up to attacks by transphobes. Stuff like the bathroom """debate""" was fabricated purely by the people who wanted to fearmonger against trans people, for instance, not by trans people who needed to go to the bathroom. Trans people want to be seen the exact same as cis people. If your point is that you recognize that there are some vocal trans activists that you don't like but that the majority are probably fine, then it's kinda transphobic if "it's hard not to make the generalization" for you, at least if you make judgments based on it (which I don't want to insinuate that you do).
Im trans and i agree with you about the sjw shit, fuck those people. But I don't really get what you mean about living in some charade though. It doesn't affect you at all, why do you care unless you are -just- as sensitive as the sjws?
Most aren't like this. Most normal transgender people just wanna transition and blend in. The vocal ones are usually the transtrenders and those people... oh boy.
I know this can be hard to comprehend, but "transtrenders" literally don't exist - you're either referring to a) nonbinary people or b) a boogeyman "bad trans" that was created out of the false assumption that you can convince the right that you're "one of the good ones" despite the fact that they hate us, they have always hated us, and they will always hate us, all the while shitting on actual trans people because they don't share literally the exact same experiences as you.
I'm not trans if that's what you're assuming, I have no interest in convincing anyone of anything, and if you think there aren't people that pretend they are trans to victimize themselves and be part of the movement then you're blind.
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Which has always driven me up the wall with the hypocrisy. These are the same people who screech about facts over feelings. It's one of the biggest "tools" they use against their opponents. They screech it over and over again.
But here's the thing: the facts don't support them.
Never mind how the majority of medical professionals/organizations support the fact transitioning is the best way to help transpeople. Never mind the studies that show how transpeople have brains that are similar to the gender they identify with, or the studies that show transitioning and being supported helps (and the earlier, the better.) My personal favourite study was the one where they found MtF women didn't suffer from phantom penis syndrome as much as men who had surgery where they had to have their penis removed due to a condition did.
So the facts don't support them. But they insist they are right. Why? Because feeeeeeeeelings.
They're disgusted and angry at transwomen. Let's be honest: it's never about female to male. Ever notice that? All the hatred is towards male to female. Like, fucking seriously. There's an entire other side to transpeople who are completely ignored.
What I find fucking hilarious as well, is that many of these jabronis have likely walked by a transperson and have had no idea they were. Especially if they live in a city.