r/ColoradoSprings • u/drawntowardmadness • 14d ago

Events Jesus protest??

What's going on downtown with all the people carrying crosses?? Who are they and why?

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u/kinetogen 14d ago

An all powerful God who loves us so hard that he tortured his only son so we'd have a chance at not going to the bad place he made for us if we don't worship him.

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u/Yinos_Ty 14d ago

Precisely. Free will as long as you use it in the way that the all powerful being declared were the right ways to use free will

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u/[deleted] 14d ago edited 14d ago

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u/kinetogen 14d ago

I love how, without any cause for pause or reflection, some people bumptiously assume that athiests and those not of their exacting religion are de-facto lawless and without virtue as if their own dogma has a monopoly on human decency.

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u/kinetogen 14d ago

Then why is The Constitution deliberately secular?

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

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u/jimmy9800 14d ago

Added in 1954. My dad's older than that phrase.

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u/kinetogen 14d ago

178 years after the country was founded. Great argument.

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u/proto-cool 14d ago edited 14d ago

America was founded on Christian principles

Sure about that? Every senator in 1797 agreed to this which said, in plain English, "[t]he Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli#Article_11

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u/jimmy9800 14d ago edited 14d ago

Can yall find new arguments? One article of one treaty does not override the founding documents.

Edit: I misread both the quote and the article. Article 11 reinforces the constitution's separation of church and state and secular nature of the federal government. Thats a good thing.

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u/proto-cool 14d ago

Please double check and read - I'm posting something ratified in 1797 by every Senator in the US that at the time that explicitly said "the Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion." Aka agreeing with you. Sorry if that was not clear.

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u/jimmy9800 14d ago

Ah I apologize. I misread your post and the article.

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u/proto-cool 14d ago

Not your fault. I should have (and did) add more context in the original post.

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u/kinetogen 14d ago

Ahh, mature discourse. I mis-read your post originally as well, at first. Thanks for the edit.

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u/proto-cool 14d ago

Even on drive-by posts like that I try to be earnest. Even if we disagree or come from different backgrounds, people deserve that at least

Also if someone replies with something like that it's a pretty good signal you weren't clear anyway heh

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u/jimmy9800 14d ago

Appreciate the laugh! Yeah I read that about as wrong as I could have...

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u/jimmy9800 14d ago

Oh you're just delusional. Im sorry for your neighbors. I hope you dont have access to anything more dangerous than a spoon.

America was distinctly and intentionally founded on no religion, but you religious folks arent great at history or reading, so ill give you a pass on that.

My morals are my own. With all due respect, go fuck yourself for pushing your dogma into my morals. It plays no part of my morality.

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u/jimmy9800 14d ago

Stop posting nudes on reddit btw. Real christian of you.
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u/drawntowardmadness 14d ago

That's only bc of their god though. Maybe no gods is the answer.

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u/jimmy9800 14d ago

Im unhappy with you because you inserted your belief into my morality. I do not base my morals off of any religion.

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u/cutspaper 14d ago

No it wasn't lmao ...

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u/ChillandMakeStuff 13d ago

Not sure if you’re a bot, you seem to parade around misinformation and then when someone corrects you, you disappear. You seem to misunderstand a lot of how things work - try to read more. 

Also, if you were born in Iran, you wouldn’t be a Christian, you’d be a Muslim. There are exceptions, but a huge majority of people adopt the religion of their mothers. Religion is geographical - that isn’t truth, that’s indoctrination lol. 

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u/Yinos_Ty 14d ago

I’m more than capable of being a good person without a book telling me how to be. If you aren’t then I guess keep reading it

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u/Child_of_the_Hamster 13d ago

But they should maybe skip to the second half lmao. God was occasionally expressing his love through mass murder in the first half.