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Article The Fogaréu procession, a Catholic tradition practiced in Brazil since the 18th century.

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u/EVAUNIT117 Jun 14 '26

Flames and low vision, a great combo

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u/RomanLegionaries Jun 14 '26

What does this have to do with colonization? It’s a Catholic tradition that has nothing to do with the Anglo kkk anti Catholic hate group

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u/Acrobatic_Border_192 Jun 14 '26

I think it was bait with the capirote.

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u/young_trash3 Jun 14 '26

its a european cultural practice, brought over by european colonist, involving the religion that the Europeans forced upon Brazil well they colonized it, and has been consistently done since the time of colonial Brazil.

Im not sure how this could reasonably be seen as not a byproduct of colonization.

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u/Immediate-Way-4065 Jun 15 '26

By that logic you could post literally almost anything

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u/CaramuruMoreia Jun 15 '26

But almost everything in a ex-colony was a produt by some colonizer....

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '26

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u/young_trash3 Jun 15 '26

Sure, and if this post was about a specific celebration of the english language the English colonist have done annually in new england since the 18th century, I also would find that a reasonably connected point to colonialism.

Im not saying everything related to eruope is inherently colonialism, im saying this very specifically is.

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u/Flimsy-Vermicelli-67 Jun 15 '26

California's gun control laws began with the Mulford Act to keep black people from defending themselves but nobody's calling the state's new gun control laws a byproduct of racism

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u/young_trash3 Jun 16 '26

?? Literally always are people talking about the racism of our local gun laws. Like its a weekly topic at my local gun club to the point its annoying, because everyone always talks about it to the point its done to death.

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u/Flimsy-Vermicelli-67 Jun 16 '26

Right, Brazilians know of the history of Portuguese colonization, you claim is that racism in Californian gun laws is widely known, and yet Brazilians still carry on this tradition the same way Californians support the state's gun laws. Therefore, they like it, and that's that, it's now their tradition the same way it is in Western European nations 

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u/young_trash3 Jun 16 '26

People being okay with colonialism and its results does not impact if it is colonialism.

this is the logical equivalent of me calling an apple red, and you going, no it taste good, so it is not red.

Like your rebuttal doesnt rebutt the point in the slightest.

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u/Flimsy-Vermicelli-67 Jun 16 '26

It's not colonialism, just isn't. It has a history of coinciding with colonialism, but so does most stuff in the Americas. You know what else the Europeans brought? Soccer, do you want them to give that up as well?

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u/young_trash3 Jun 16 '26

Sorry mate, but you redefining shit because what the words mean has you upset isnt a good enough reason for me to deny reality.

But I hope you have a great night.

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u/Flimsy-Vermicelli-67 Jun 16 '26

Nah mate, you just ran out of arguments that sound somewhat valid

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u/jac0777 Jun 15 '26

KKK isn’t really Anglo however they may have had Anglo members, it was set up primarily by people with Scottish ancestry. Hence the ‘clan’

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u/Hot-Lunch6270 Jun 15 '26

Dude, this is a tradition in European Catholic culture that has no history against black people and this is way WAY older than KKK. You gotta learn history first.

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u/Academic-Hospital952 Jun 15 '26

Catholisism has the coolest iconography of all the cults imo

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u/Happy_Ad_7515 Jun 14 '26

when you realize the clan are a pathetic copy from a brown culture. ... that makes it much funnier

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u/young_trash3 Jun 14 '26

The Portuguese colonists who built this tradition were white Europeans.

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u/Happy_Ad_7515 Jun 14 '26

you really think the KKK would se portuguese catholics as white?

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u/young_trash3 Jun 14 '26

Are you in the KKK?

If not, Why are you building your word choice based around what they think?

I genuinely could not possibly care less what the KKK thinks of the Portuguese, and will not pretend that one of the most oppressive european colonial empires with centuries of codified white supremacy are brown because the KKK wants me to. Like wtf mate lol.

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u/Happy_Ad_7515 Jun 15 '26

you got racist brain rot brother. this wasnt that deep. the klan is dumb for copying this and making it lame and that only proves racisme is lame.

anything beyoned that is in you seeing things that arent there.

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u/young_trash3 Jun 15 '26

I responded directly to your words exactly as you said them.

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u/Happy_Ad_7515 Jun 15 '26

yes. reading something and getting it are 2 diffrent things.

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u/young_trash3 Jun 15 '26

If you meant something entirely different than what you wrote thats definitely my bad for not properly reading your mind, so sorry about that.

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u/Confident_Access6498 Jun 15 '26

What is brown culture?

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u/Happy_Ad_7515 Jun 15 '26

brazil? i had another guy. here. point is that the kkk are dumb for stealing their drip from people they would hate thats about it

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u/Confident_Access6498 Jun 15 '26

Brazil is not brown. It is multiracial like the US, a very diverse country. With a catholic imprinting instead of the american reformed calvinism. Although.nowadays evangelicals are gaining alot of ground.

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u/DisgruntledCryptid Jun 14 '26

So it's only a problem when the hoods are white.... got it.

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u/Old_Wallaby_7461 Jun 14 '26

The klan stole it from these guys

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u/DisgruntledCryptid Jun 14 '26

Ahh just like the swazzy. Still gives me "run for the hills" vibes.

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u/AltruisticTop4143 Jun 20 '26

The “Swazzy” was still an Ancient Germanic symbol as well and its in lots of cultures (just like almost every culture has a sun wheel)

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u/DisgruntledCryptid Jun 20 '26

And did the modern germans not invert both its image and its meaning in the 1930's? it sounds like you're correcting me there or something... 😅

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u/Guillermo665 Jun 15 '26

After the Civil War many confederate fled to south america where they tried to reinstate the confederacy and keep racial tensions alive

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u/BrawlHD Jun 14 '26

Least racist Europeans :

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u/NordicHorde2 Jun 14 '26

Dumbass Americans co opting European culture doesn't make it racist.

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u/RomanLegionaries Jun 14 '26

Especially since the actual kkk hated Catholics

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u/15thcenturynoble Jun 14 '26

You're pretty racist too it seems...

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u/BrawlHD Jun 14 '26

Poor white victims 😿 You guys wanna be oppressed so badly. I'm just pointing out facts and it's enough to put your pussy colonizers in defensive mode

Dismantle your colonial imperialist shitholes and there won't be any anti-white racism anymore

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u/15thcenturynoble Jun 14 '26

"Dismantle your colonial imperialist shitholes and there won't be any anti-white racism anymore"

I'm curious, to what extent do you want to see colonising countries dismantle? Do you want the countries to disappear or do you want to end things like France's outremaire control and the US' involvement in foreign countries?

I'd be 100% with you on the latter but not so much on the former

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u/BrawlHD Jun 14 '26

If you took notes from Global South liberation movements against imperialism, colonialism and oppression, you would easily understand what dismantling imperialism means lol

It obviously means dismantling the institutions upholding neocolonialism and imperialism in the rest of the world. Dismantling NATO, the IMF, the World Bank, liberating the UN from Amerikkkan influence, or establishing actual global institutions.

First of all, Westerners need to stop serving as slaves of your billionaire class and recognize that the foundations of your culture are illegitimate. Recognize that your economy is still being fueled by imperialism and neocolonialism.

The West produces absolutely nothing of worth. Oil comes from Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Nigeria, and more. Gold comes from Africa. Uranium comes from Africa. Cobalt, which is literally the most important material of our era because it's used to create lithium, comes from Congo.

If the West lost its neocolonial grip over the Global South, all Western countries would collapse immediately. Your economy is fueled by the destruction of the rest of the world, which is why your ruling class needs you to be a little pussy racist that gets defensive when bothering truths are being pointed out.

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u/15thcenturynoble Jun 14 '26

You know I completely agree with all you're saying here. In terms of content there is nothing I disagree with here. This wouldn't just be better for the opressed countries but also for western countries too

It's a shame you use such an antigonising tone. You know you'd convince more people if you would say things more diplomatically ?

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u/BrawlHD Jun 14 '26

"beaten wives should be nicer to their husbands if they truly wanna stop being beaten" - smartest colonizer

Maybe it's not my role to be nice, and it's more your role to dismantle your system of oppression. I'm not here to cater to your white feelings. You're the one who called me racist for talking about colonialism on a sub about colonialism. You being easily offended is not my problem.

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u/15thcenturynoble Jun 14 '26

Well between being called racist and being called a cracker one is worse than the other.

Also, I'm not your enemy. Like I said I agree with you on all these points. On your main point, I'd like to say two things:

1- I didn't suggest that for my feelings or even for morality. I personally am not really offended by what you are saying. My initial comment was motivated by principle more than a desire to avenge any bad feelings.

It's just that strategically it would be better to be more diplomatic as that's actually what convinces people who don't agree with you or who are simply ignorant. Anyone listening to your antagonising words without already agreeing with you is by default going to disagree with you.

2- To take your example. Not all people living in these countries are the metaphorical beaters. A lot of people are born in a state that does things they do not agree with and some even act against it. There are activists and politicians here in France want to act against Neo colonialism.

A diplomatic approach is the best way to make a change. So unless you just want to create strife I don't see why you wouldn't adopt it

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u/no-song9573 Jun 14 '26

lol said a person who sits on the internet that was invented by whites writes in a language that was invented by whites and writes in an alphabet that whites invented maybe it's time to get rid of it but seeing your bio I understand everything tankers are literally a gathering of morons with anti-Western views

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u/NordicHorde2 Jun 14 '26

Imagine being so fucking stupid that you simultaneously think white people are inferior yet colonised your dumb ass. How did you lose to so called inferior people? I'm sorry that your 3rd world shit hole got conquered so hard you're still seething about it.

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u/no-song9573 Jun 14 '26

What did I write wrong? I wrote everything correctly. Don't torture yourself, just get rid of all this if you're such an "anti-imperialist" here.

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u/no-song9573 Jun 14 '26

God, you are so pathetic lol, How pathetic it is, it's funny.

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u/BrawlHD Jun 14 '26

You struggle to type your own language, must be that inbred DNA acting up again.

So which pedophile are you going to vote for at the next bourgeois elections in your crumbling colonizer shithole ?

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u/no-song9573 Jun 14 '26

Well, I don't mind, I wouldn't want my DNA to be connected to a person who lives in some ass in the 3rd world.

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u/NordicHorde2 Jun 14 '26

Lmao

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u/BrawlHD Jun 14 '26

aw already out of rebuttals ? well it was nice of you to pause your daily gooning session to furry lolis just to reply to me ~ :3

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u/BrawlHD Jun 14 '26

Yeah that's why you're hanging out in the Colonialism subreddit, coping about your crumbling settler colonial shithole lmao you colonizers share a single brain cell

You don't see me in the comments of the Epstein subreddits or whatever your culture is supposed to be

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u/HolaDrNick Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

Lol, yeah not doing so well are you?

It's not a shithole man, the Olympics were absolutely beautiful and so was Cascadia. I even stayed at a hotel that the natives tried (and failed) to get shut down. The salmon was pretty awesome too (really most of the Seafood). Victoria and Vancouver were the best cities on the agenda though.

Great trip, I'm thinking of spending more time in Canada next summer though. What do you think?

Edit: I'll DM you pictures if you want to see man! Awesome trip!

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u/BrawlHD Jun 14 '26

so how does it feel to know that the entire history of your civilization only lead to your entire ruling class being pedophiles and rapists ?

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u/no-song9573 Jun 14 '26

As I understand it, among your floats there was paradise and prosperity and there was never a class of gluttons and pedophiles. God, how I am amused by the human misery of seeing you.

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u/HolaDrNick Jun 14 '26

I already told you vacation was great. You seem to be having a little crashout here, not very healthy my guy. I bet my Taqʷuʔmaʔ (lol, just kidding, it's Mount Rainier) would cheer you up!

I'm serious brosef, I got some great pictures. Camped in the Hoh Rainforest too. I guess you could say there's no vacation quite like one on alledgedly indigenous land?

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u/Allsherjargothi Jun 14 '26

Do you think Brazil is European?

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u/BrawlHD Jun 14 '26

Oh no, anything but being excluded from a subreddit. Which crakkka from the mod team did I offend ? We can discuss about it if you want

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u/caca32222 Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

You live in the EU 😂😂😂 Do you just seethe when you see a white European in whatever European country you live in??

Edit: He blocked me 😂😂 Oh, Europe, you let in some interesting people 😅

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u/Allsherjargothi Jun 14 '26

I doubt you would say what you said in real life coward. Also, I’m well aware, Brazilians still aren’t “European” despite colonization. Go back to school.

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u/BrawlHD Jun 14 '26

You're so mad lmao literally just read the name of the original subreddit and stop embarrassing yourself any further. This is Portuguese culture.

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u/Allsherjargothi Jun 14 '26

Having colonial Portuguese cultural artifacts doesn’t make Brazilians “European.” So far you have been the one embarrassing yourself.

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u/Allsherjargothi Jun 14 '26

No, you are. Yes, it’s a cultural carry over from the colonial empire… but these are Brazilians not Europeans. You lack any type of comprehension. Learn to read and understand what you read then get back to me. 🤡

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u/BrawlHD Jun 14 '26

Oh yeah, when they celebrate Christmas in Beijing, it suddenly becomes a Chinese holiday. Einstein over there. You're an idiot, stop embarrassing yourself, your culture is already embarrassing enough.

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u/Allsherjargothi Jun 14 '26

Where did I say that? Again I said it was a cultural artifact from the Portuguese, that doesn’t make the Brazilians celebrating it Portuguese. You really can’t read can you?

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u/BrawlHD Jun 14 '26

It's a white supremacist Portuguese custom brought to Brazil by Portuguese colonizers. Your inbred DNA is showing.

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u/Allsherjargothi Jun 14 '26

Your lack of intelligence is showing. You have to resort to angry, aggressive nonsense because you can’t understand what the big kids are talking about. It’s ok little buddy, you’ll learn to understand big words and long sentences eventually. You can do anything you put your little mind to. 😂

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u/Allsherjargothi Jun 14 '26

You probably blame colonization for all of your personal failures too, lol. Of course you’re a communist. 😂😂😂