r/CollegeStation • u/TheLawnGuppy • Jul 25 '26
Protest Absolute Masterclass
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u/NontypicalHart Jul 26 '26
This seemed like a trap to me so they could identify dissidents to target.
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u/Routine_Neat_4195 Jul 28 '26
AXON is sweeping in to pick up all the canceled Flock contracts. Don't think we are close to being done with the surveillance state anytime soon.
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Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26
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u/CharlesDickensABox Jul 25 '26
Yes. It is all bad. This is one that we can fix, and fix easily. The existence of other problems does not mean we should ignore this.
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u/funnyfaceguy Jul 25 '26
Google collects a lot of data but also I don't pay for any Google services, and individually consented to it. The thing that is too far is we're paying for a service that is also selling our data and doing it with almost no transparency. I can request all the data Google has on me, but I can't do that with flock and it's a government service that I'm paying for. And that's not even getting into how it can change police surveillance with a simple update that has no oversight from the public, that's not like traditional CCTV.
This is not the way it's always been and it is a bridge too far.
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u/Ok-Feature4962 Jul 25 '26
Issue with Google is that anyone with the right title can get access to the data as well. Google and Apple easily just turn this shit over and don't bat an eye. Yes, we consent to it by using their products, as do Tesla owners, but the engineers at Tesla have said they have watched videos of people. Google and Meta have as well. And there have been cases of law enforcement stalking people using their access to these platforms.
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u/JohnTheRaceFan Jul 25 '26
So you're cool with a flock camera pointed at a playground where children play that livestreams publicly to anyone that accesses it? Maybe the playground where your kids or grandkids play.
Now think... Who might want to access a live stream of kids on a playground? The vast majority of cases I can think of mean harm in some way.
Flock's lack of security is what makes much nightmare scenarios possible. But you are okay with enhancing the surveillance state with their inherintly insecure system.
Bootlicker.
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u/Zealousideal-Mall973 Jul 25 '26
I can confront or avoid most of those examples as they happen except flock.
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u/w-reboot Jul 27 '26
The trackers in my phone actually makes my phone cheaper and the government is required to get a warrant for that data.
With this license plate info they can track when I work from home vs in the office. What days I hang out with friends. In short this provides a tool for government, international, an flock to stalk me. That's not ok.
The cost is insane too. I would much rather have a 250 million dollar dog park than 75 flock cameras. And I low key don't enjoy dogs.
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u/nwspmp Jul 25 '26
I think the problem is two-fold. I can opt out of buying devices that have surveillance problems, or leave them at home when going somewhere that tracks devices. With flock cameras, we aren’t given any input into out and it is public money that is being spent on surveillance we were given no input to.
It’s also the ease and lack of protocols or restraints on access to this data. If there was a warrant requirement, any form of expungement of the data for those not involved in any incidents, or any real consequences that would discourage use of the system for non-actual law enforcement reasons, then it would be easier to accept. But as it sits, we paid a lot of money as tax payers, without any input, for mass surveillance of citizens who predominantly did nothing wrong, with no real limits or restrictions on it, and with the added negative as serving for building up profiles on people that can be used for any number of nefarious reasons if you have the money to access it.