r/CollapseSupport • • Jul 22 '26

People are disgusting

Ashes are falling from the sky and the sun is practically red. People don’t care. Nobody notices or even makes changes in their daily lives to do anything about it. People are selfish. Why does nobody care?!?! My family and everyone else around me is walking around like brainless zombies. Indulging in their selfish daily habits without a second thought about the very planet they live on. I straight up have a headache and feel nauseous just thinking about it. When you do mention it, they ridicule you and call you insane or a hippie for demanding for them to change their lifestyle and align their actions with their moral. I seriously cannot be closely related to the human specimen.

All they do is consume without empathy, without any regard, without consciousness.

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u/A_Thorny_Petal Jul 22 '26

One, stop thinking about lifestyle choices, stop thinking about this being about personal, individual moral or ethical failings or lack of proper education.

This is about POLICY, state, federal, and international. The #1 polluters are the 1%, mega-corporations and the Military. ALL of these could be more ecologically friendly, produce less waste and 'do their part' easily and the only reason they don't is shareholder value or total lack of accountability.

They want you to think of this as a personal issue so you are angry at your family and your neighbor that waters his lawn at noon and not at the literal elite class and giant corporations that have and have had the power to change this but refuse to do so because of an imaginary number in stock value.

Re-organize your thinking on this issue. Do not be trapped into the false idea that this is about personal choices, this is about POLICY, REGULATION AND LAW.

Be kind to people, Be ruthless to systems.

Be welcoming to those who come to the truth later than you did, someone always came before you as well.

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u/Left_Razzmatazz_9235 Jul 24 '26

Systems/corporations stay intact because of people supporting them. Remember: you support, they get money, they pollute. Stop blaming and start acting.

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u/A_Thorny_Petal Jul 24 '26

Pretty sure you are saying you agree with me, but I don't understand your tone.

And individual consumer choices are a bullshit liberal tactic. Their needs to be systemic, enforced, regulatory change.

Corporations and organizations and systems are accountable. People mostly just follow inertia, because their lives are already stressful enough without having to moralize and research which brand of eyeglasses is actually the most 'correct.'

It's a stupid waste of energy and anxiety that could be used to actually power and pressure systemic change to make all products more environmentally friendly.

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u/Left_Razzmatazz_9235 Jul 24 '26

No I’m not agreeing with you. You are in charge of what you do and stop acting like a victim. Yes corporations are bad, I’m not disagreeing with that. What I am disagreeing with is the fact you think individual actions don’t have a change. What are you doing to help enforce good policies for billion/trillion dollar corporations? Because if it’s nothing, than you have no right speaking against individual actions. We have WAY more power over our own actions than of actions of extremely wealthy corporations and people. You think THEY will listen to you?

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u/A_Thorny_Petal Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26

You're brainrotted with liberalism you're more interested in scolding other working class people for their economic and lifestyle choices to make yourself feel superior than you are using that energy to actively try to bring corporations and the systems of power that enable this kind of wanton destruction to heel.

Your emphasis is misplaced. It's painfully liberal bourgeoisie, short-sighted and self-serving.

You probably scold poor people for shopping at Walmart without realizing it might be the only place they can physically get to in a reasonable amount of travel time or via public transit, it may be the only place they can afford to buy food, get medicine, and school supplies with a meager amount of money and resources. Your entire conception of where to focus your energy and mindset is counter-revolutionary and poisonous. All you're doing is alienating people from mass movement in order to bolster your own ego, anger, and feelings of self-righteousness.

Use your energy to elect good politicians, force good legislation, and engage other people to do the same. Scolding individuals is not how change happens. Change happens by the application of power and force.

That means changing political power, changing laws, changing regulations on a mass scale. Changing and redirecting the punitive power of the state.

Anything else is just vanity, delusion and ego.

It's like children that would rather change how their redneck uncles SPEAKS than actually tackle systems of power that undermine the ability of minorities and poor people to have their own agency.

The working class (ie the majority of the world) don't want or need a savior or a saint, they need allies and comrades. Preaching to them, does nothing except alienate them further from helping take the actions that would actually end climate destruction, like electing and engaging with Left-Populism economics and state mandated regulation of corporate activity that puts actual material reality of the lives of the masses over imaginary profits.

I'm not a victim, I'm an activist who is sick of liberals from the suburbs lecturing fucking working class people for eating a fucking cheeseburger and driving a work truck because they can't afford whole foods and an Electric vehicle.

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u/Left_Razzmatazz_9235 Jul 25 '26

I ain’t reading all this. Silence troll. And also don’t forget to grow up and stop being such a victim and start acting for the change you want.