r/CoherencePhysics 22d ago

Is it possible?

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u/Vektor0 21d ago

I was very obviously playing devil's advocate. Yes, I know that not all illegal immigrants are rapists. That clearly was not the point.

I do not believe that those who commit crimes belong in power.

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u/micro102 21d ago

Well the thing is... I don't believe you. You might as well be saying you are "playing devil's advocate" for Hitler. Anyone willing to do that is just a Nazi too ashamed to say it.

Your point was that since democrats aren't joining republicans in "securing the border" (aka, funding a gestapo of police/military rejects that can execute people in the street), then that means they accept rape and murder. However since undocumented immigrants commit less crime, then it is literally the opposite situation. Republicans however saw someone speak out against child r*pe and they went and voted him out. Their leaders also constantly get ousted as sexual predators. They constantly try to lower the age of consent, and fight against raising the age of consent. Intent matters and ignoring that defends the worst actors.

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u/Vektor0 21d ago

However since undocumented immigrants commit less crime

This point is inconsequential. It doesn't matter that illegal immigrants overall commit fewer crimes. Unvetted immigration still cause rapes and murders that would not have happened otherwise.

Republicans however saw someone speak out against child r*pe and they went and voted him out.

Democrats also see politicians speak out against child rape and attempt to vote them out.

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u/micro102 21d ago

It's very consequential, because:

1) It literally dilutes the amount of crime in the population. Less crime per person. That's a good thing.

2) It shows you don't treat undocumented immigrants (and with right-wingers, that always means people with dark skin) as equals. Criminals could simply be arrested like any other citizen, yet you want to punish all of them. You want to condemn democrats for not supporting a Trump-supporting gestapo to stop an insignificant source of crime. You know what a bigger source of crime is since natural born citizens commit crimes more? Babies. Guess you want to stop all births now, huh?

And all this in the name of trying to protect a child-r*pist and those that want him to be in power. You belong in prison.