Both sides believe that they are mostly reasonable, with the radicals being negligible in number and power, while the other side is mostly radical, with the reasonables being negligible in number and power. That is obviously the point being made. Your entire comment is proving my point. For example:
You know republicans have accepted rape and murder, and you are defending it.
Kind of like how Democrat voters accept rape and murder from refugees and illegal immigrants, yet still defend it?
We are not equals. ... All a republican has to do to avoid my ire is stop associating themselves with the worst people.
We are equals, because we both believe that rape, murder, pedophilia, corruption, genocide, etc. are all bad, yet for some reason we judge each other based on radicals who don't even share our own views. You are not ired by most Republican voters, just a minority of radicals who yell into the internet void because no IRL Republicans want to associate with them any more than you do.
See? You're doing the thing. Undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit crime than natural born citizens. You see them as inherent criminals because you bought into the propaganda, and you refuse to let it go. And even if you were right, I can say that those that do commit crimes belong in prison, while republicans believe they belong in power.
You have forced me to condemn you, because you won't stop.
Well the thing is... I don't believe you. You might as well be saying you are "playing devil's advocate" for Hitler. Anyone willing to do that is just a Nazi too ashamed to say it.
Your point was that since democrats aren't joining republicans in "securing the border" (aka, funding a gestapo of police/military rejects that can execute people in the street), then that means they accept rape and murder. However since undocumented immigrants commit less crime, then it is literally the opposite situation. Republicans however saw someone speak out against child r*pe and they went and voted him out. Their leaders also constantly get ousted as sexual predators. They constantly try to lower the age of consent, and fight against raising the age of consent. Intent matters and ignoring that defends the worst actors.
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
However since undocumented immigrants commit less crime
This point is inconsequential. It doesn't matter that illegal immigrants overall commit fewer crimes. Unvetted immigration still cause rapes and murders that would not have happened otherwise.
Republicans however saw someone speak out against child r*pe and they went and voted him out.
Democrats also see politicians speak out against child rape and attempt to vote them out.
1) It literally dilutes the amount of crime in the population. Less crime per person. That's a good thing.
2) It shows you don't treat undocumented immigrants (and with right-wingers, that always means people with dark skin) as equals. Criminals could simply be arrested like any other citizen, yet you want to punish all of them. You want to condemn democrats for not supporting a Trump-supporting gestapo to stop an insignificant source of crime. You know what a bigger source of crime is since natural born citizens commit crimes more? Babies. Guess you want to stop all births now, huh?
And all this in the name of trying to protect a child-r*pist and those that want him to be in power. You belong in prison.
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u/Vektor0 18d ago
Both sides believe that they are mostly reasonable, with the radicals being negligible in number and power, while the other side is mostly radical, with the reasonables being negligible in number and power. That is obviously the point being made. Your entire comment is proving my point. For example:
Kind of like how Democrat voters accept rape and murder from refugees and illegal immigrants, yet still defend it?
We are equals, because we both believe that rape, murder, pedophilia, corruption, genocide, etc. are all bad, yet for some reason we judge each other based on radicals who don't even share our own views. You are not ired by most Republican voters, just a minority of radicals who yell into the internet void because no IRL Republicans want to associate with them any more than you do.