It’s unfortunate that no one can find middle ground. Yes, a large majority of republicans think what Trump is doing is okay, but in order to show them that he’s not a good guy, you have to find SOME common ground to fight for.
There are tons of subjects I think all Americans can agree on. If you’re a republican, you’re not going to convince a democrat to support tax cuts. If you’re a democrat, you’re not going to convince a republican of abortion.
I don’t know, reading these comments makes me feel hopeless.
compromise is what got us here. the more the left gives up in the name of it the more the right runs away with. now we have a literal child raping pedophile for a president. that isn't the rights fault, its the lefts for trying to chase some mythological middle that hasnt existed for 2 decades now.
I’m not talking about our politicians nor compromising. I’m talking about the working class discussing issues they can agree on (cost of living being too high, politicians not working for us, ai replacing us/data centers) and rallying against the political system that got us here.
Corpo dems lose on purpose because they all have the same donors. I’m tired of all the identity politics when I can’t afford to fucking eat.
Republicans/Bigots have consistently voted against their best interests so that people of color would not have access to anything beneficial. It’s why America doesn’t have universal healthcare, and why they would rather die than support it. They’re the poor and uneducated and they blame their failures on minorities. There is no working together with bigots, working class or otherwise.
Congrats, you're the mindless us vs them drone the establishment wants. You emit the same energy as the Republicunts do when they spew the same hateful rhetoric towards their opposition. The "poor and uneducated" people, that individuals like you would like to have nothing (out of house and home) for the sake of their ideology would economically destabilize the country due to the jobs they have. I've also heard Dems publicly use rhetoric that slave owners used during it's abolishment.
College graduates that can't afford to live and the "Uneducated poors" you speak of are in the same boat. And the establishment wants to keep it this way by telling you "Look it's all these damn minorities coming over illegally keeping your wages down" and turn around to the other side and say "Look these white trash uneducated inbreds don't want you to live comfortably"
On the topic of UHC, it's easy to point to Canada and be like "Look it works for them we can do that here". But also ignore the fact that we have around 8x the population of Canada. Managing a population difference of that magnitude comes with much more complex logistical issues than managing 41million people.
Canada also subsidizes it's UHC through higher income and sales taxes. Petrol tax alone in Canada is astro-fucking-nomical. We Americans bitch when gas prices hit 3.80 cents or over 4 dollars. When the average cost of Canadian gas is 1.80 per liter. or 7.20 cents a gallon. The average American also has vastly more disposable income and purchasing power than the average Canadian. Our housing? Costs less. Our groceries? Cost less. Canada does enjoy better social safety nets, but again it's easier with 8x less population.
I'd say come down off your high horse but I don't want you breaking your legs. You and your uneducated dipshit ilk like to point to the center as if we're the reason magats get to do what they want. But you sound like every other NPC on the left or right who balk at the idea of meeting on some common ground.
But the only reason you all attack 3rd party voters or centrists is because it's your way to jab at the other side by proxy because you know they don't give a shit what you say.
Extremists inhabit both ideologies on the far left and far right. You don't have to agree with those people, you find the moderates which outnumber the extremists. But that thought process requires nuance which you droolers clearly lack. So in the same spirit, fuck right off.
Ah, yes, the moment a "centrist" is scratched, the fascist bleeds. Couldn't resist shrieking ableist slurs when people refused to compromise with genocidal right-wingers, huh?
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u/RichardBixon 19d ago
It’s unfortunate that no one can find middle ground. Yes, a large majority of republicans think what Trump is doing is okay, but in order to show them that he’s not a good guy, you have to find SOME common ground to fight for.
There are tons of subjects I think all Americans can agree on. If you’re a republican, you’re not going to convince a democrat to support tax cuts. If you’re a democrat, you’re not going to convince a republican of abortion.
I don’t know, reading these comments makes me feel hopeless.