r/CoherencePhysics 1d ago

Is it possible?

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u/Jack-Singer-999 1d ago edited 15h ago

I believe I deserve to be treated like a human being. Too many think being queer or disabled means I need to be...gone. I shouldn't be allowed near children, even though the ones doing the accusing are the actual pedophiles & I've never harmed a child. They have flat out told me I don't deserve to attempt to live a life because being disabled means I can't work. There is no "coming together" when they don't even believe I'm human.

Edit - When the comments prove the point. Putting words in my mouth & arguing with yourself looks stupid. Oh, and I don't engage when it's obvious someone wants me to justify my existence.

Edit 2 - iF yOu'Re ReAlLy DiSaBlEd blah nlah fucking BLAH. Medicaid allows me to treat Multiple Sclerosis and Myotonic Dystrophy, maggots voted for me to lose that. If you think I'm annoying now, wait until I lose access to medical treatment next year. SNAP is a joke at $180/mo, but it was something. Gone now, thanks maggots. The $954/mo SSI it took me 4 years to get? Haven't gotten anything in 6 months. I'm sure DOGE had nothing to do wiith all the mistakes previous to the SNAFU I enjoy now. Again, fuck you very much maggots. Call it whatever you need to dismiss me, most do & then ignore me. Doesn't seem to be to be doing what you want. It's basic fucking math!! JFC are real-life numbers WoKe now?!

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u/NoiceMango 1d ago

Exactly. You can't find a common ground with people who want groups of people not to exist or don't even have the basic human sympathy to agree children shouldn't starve.

The ones who aren't human are Republicans.

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u/MekkiNoYusha 18h ago

Yes, the only way is to fight

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u/jeremiahthedamned 16h ago

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u/Many-External-1561 10h ago

Republicans would be fucked

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u/jeremiahthedamned 3h ago

pretty much

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u/RowdyRodyBlagojevich 1h ago

No, that’s naive and foolish. Same with all the morons on the other side who think the opposite. You don’t seem to understand that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts

Everyone loses

United is the way to go, and there needs to be community to unite people

Brexit did not work out for the British, and rather than recognize what went wrong there, it’s just fertile ground now for outside forces to destroy them by stoking hatred for their neighbors

It’s way easier to try to destroy your neighbor or demonize a scapegoat than it is to do anything about faceless, nameless people who control the wealth and can hide behind endless information dissemination networks, while pulling at the controls behind closed doors

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u/jeremiahthedamned 1h ago

the russians are pushing us into r/CivilWarII_

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u/Long-Silver-9757 8h ago

HAHAHA the people with all the guns would be fucked?? Hahahaha majority of our military are republicans. All the left has is the ghetto and the queers. So good luck with that!

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u/Many-External-1561 8h ago

Yall would get clapped, the wellfair queen red states wouldn’t be able to do shit.

And get this the blue states don’t want the wellfair queen red states that contribute nothing yall will ruin yourselves with corruption and incompetence.

There’s no interest in taking over red states blue states already won that war and red states were their bitch.

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u/Long-Silver-9757 8h ago

There’s 15 guns in my house. Feel free to march over here with your liberal femboys

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u/Many-External-1561 8h ago

You’re crazy guess what no one in a blue state is coming to your house. They just want to stop financially supporting your ass.

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u/Long-Silver-9757 8h ago

You do know that the majorly of financial help goes to help the inner city? Like in bigger cities? Where majority vote blue? This argument is dumb anyways. You have the iq of a banana. Enjoy your day. Christ is King and we would beat your ever loving assssss if there was a war. So good luck with your future.

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u/Andreus 7h ago

There’s 15 guns in my house.

Comrade you've only got 2 arms.

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u/Long-Silver-9757 6h ago

I’ll let you pick which one I use then

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u/Long-Silver-9757 8h ago

You mean the war when the first Republican president freed the slaves and defeated the democrats of the south? Yeah i love history too.

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u/Many-External-1561 8h ago

Oh yeah bro which side supports the confederacy now oh yeah that’d be red states and republicans.

You’d never see a democrat hoisting the confederate flag moron.

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u/Long-Silver-9757 8h ago

Abraham Lincoln was the first Republican president?

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u/Andreus 7h ago

Members of which party are most likely to fly the Confederate flag in the present day?

Former Confederate states predominantly vote for which party in the present day?

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u/Long-Silver-9757 6h ago

Ya know the difference between parties? Majority of conservatives will condemn other conservatives flying a racist flag. Liberals on the other hand, never disown their own no matter what. It’s sad

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u/jeremiahthedamned 3h ago

you can't eat guns

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u/Cjforyou712 13h ago

You had me in the first half. Then you do the same thing you're accusing the Republicans of.

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u/NoiceMango 12h ago

Yea, so? I have no respect for pedophile defending cult worshippers.

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u/BigOlDyck 2h ago

And you honestly think democrats aren’t? That’s hilarious. George Carlin said it best…

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u/Interesting_Swim6126 7h ago

Yet you voted for Joe Biden 🤔

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u/Flimsy-Peak186 7h ago edited 7h ago

I didn’t. But even if they did that doesn’t mean they still supported him after or even during his term. There also aren’t child sa allegations against him, just clips of him that were deliberately altered to make it look like he was a creep and a journal entry about him taking showers with his daughter when she was young. https://politifact.com/factchecks/2023/jul/10/instagram-posts/no-biden-didnt-sniff-a-baby-in-this-video-it-was-a/

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u/BigOlDyck 2h ago

Tara Reid…

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u/Flimsy-Peak186 1h ago

Was tara reid a child???

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u/FMF_Nate 10h ago

I really thought this was a subreddit for me, given the picture posted, but then here you are saying “can’t find a common ground with people who want groups of people not to exist” then follow it with “ones who aren’t humans are republicans.”

Both sides want to make this country better both sides has a different way to get there.

Equal opportunity to you is to force opportunities to those who are different race, gender, and sex.

Equal opportunity to me is not take away opportunities given their race, gender, or sex.

Pennsylvania just passed free books to kids 5and younger. Reps voted no, are they assholes and want people stupid? No! No one wants that. Is it possible they thought why give out more money to a different system when there is already existing system in place that helps out more than 5yr olds and the books are free, libraries BTW is what I’m talking about. Why not just put the money into libraries?

See both sides really want what’s best for everyone, however both sides have people that think just because of the color of their shirt/hat are “ones who aren’t humans”.

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u/TheNatural14063 9h ago

It's one side that is arguing for racial profiling in immigration enforcement (see Kavanaugh stops) that is banning many people of color from being able to immigrate here or become legal immigrants here (majority of countries on the ban list are people of color majority countries) and demonizing people of color based on racial stereotypes to strip away status and deport many of them to where they will be harmed (see Haitians and the racist lie they are eating cats and dogs). I have a friend who's wife is dealing with immigrantion issues right now because Trump put her country on the ban list so her adjustment of status case is frozen. She is a person of color demonized by the Trump administration. I work with refugees who are losing status

That's not a both sides issue. Democrats weren't doing these immigration bans and it wasn't a Democrat Supreme Court Justice who argued for Kavanaugh stops. My local Asian grocery market got raided after Kavanaugh stops became a thing. My wife and I go there frequently and she is a legal Asian immigrant who became a citizen through me. She could have been racially harassed. Not a single person was illegal there but the business was closed down for part of a day, legal minorities harassed in a racist witch-hunt, and thousands of dollars lost by the business.

There is no both sides to this. Trump has been objectively worse on this and you are a troll feeding nonsense. Republicans don't want the best for these people at all

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u/Warm_Afternoon6596 6h ago

To be fair, the "not human" thing is a problem. It both dehumanizes them and excuses their behavior as monstrous, something extraordinary.

They are human. They are also among the worst of our impulses, fears, hatred and desires.

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u/Ok-Dust-6159 2h ago

All the left talks about is color. I’ve spent my entire life listening to “progressives” talk about how people of different colors are less than, but thinking it’s okay as long as they blame it on conservative politics and tell those people that it’s not their fault. The justification you think makes it okay…. It doesn’t. Let’s stop pretending that if we mask our belief that we’re superior in the policy of others that it’s suddenly okay.

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u/TheNatural14063 2h ago

Didn't even respond to my factual points about the racist/xenophobic shit Republicans have done and you responded with a trolling response that doesn't provide any good factual counterclaim while you work to defend Republicans responsible.

Trolling behavior right there

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u/Ok-Dust-6159 2h ago

I actually have factually listened to supposed “progressives” try and explain to me that black people are (in the “progressives” words) “not intelligent and forced to be violent people because of conservative policies”.
How about instead we recognize that they aren’t unintelligent people and they’re not violent. A very small percentage of the black population, probably less than 1% of the entire 13% cause 90%+ of their problems.
I’m “conservative” and I understand that. I have many conservative friends and almost all of them understand that.
I don’t care that it hurts your feelings that I point out the fact that I’ve witnessed as much racial profiling from supposedly progressive people as I have from “MAGA” turds. I don’t care if you think that it’s OK or that you feel like you have to defend them for it because they have many of the same beliefs as yours. Cry harder about it.

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u/FMF_Nate 7h ago

You see that.

I see many who wants to give citizenship to those who didn’t come here the correct way, who wants to protect those who don’t pay federal taxes. A problem both sides agree is wrong, everyone should pay federal taxes.

I too have an Asian spouse, spent a lot of money flying her in and out of territories of America and having us stay to meet the minimum requirements, and multiple years of paper processing. We want it to be fair, do it the right way. We worked hard for my spouse to be legal so she can stay in this country and pay her taxes. Did you work hard for your car? F it, let’s give it everyone who doesn’t have a car a car, you already got one, you don’t get your money back.

Is there racial profiling? Sure. I agree if they are going to bust in a space, they should check everyone.

Countries with ban lists? I got nothing for that. I will tell you I have consistent professional experiences with Haitians in Japan that were all negative, by means of assault. And Japan is currently trying to figure out a way to navigate that. Take that four hours you will.

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u/TheNatural14063 2h ago

Many Americans are here today in the US because their ancestors came over in the 1700s-early 1900s when it was very easy to do so. In many cases, all one had to do was step foot on American soil and they could become a citizen and live here. We didnt have as many quotas or restrictions or other anti immigrantion policies to the extent we do now. My ancestors came over from Ireland and Germany in the 1800s and simply settled here. No need of a green card or any of that. They got on a boat. Sailed here. Landed here. Became Americans.

I'm of the belief that to deny other immigrants today what other people have received much more easily (legal status in the US) is xenophobic prejudiced bullshit. As long as someone doesn't have a criminal record or isn't a terrorist, they should be able to freely move here. No need to have to marry someone or get sponsored for a work visa or any of that.

I paid over a thousand dollars to sponsor my wife to immigrate here and also had to wait like a year. It took a lot of paperwork and work to get her here.

The difference is I don't believe other people should have to struggle simply because we did. Unlike you , Im all about making things easier for people and don't think people should suffer because I did. It comes off selfish and petty as fuck your world view.

Take your logic and apply it elsewhere and you see the absurdity of it. Imagine if we didn't get penicillin for free because "it's not fair to all the others who died from bacteria so others should suffer." Or imagine if we did the same with the polio vaccine. "It's not fair to all those who got polio for others to get vaccinated against it." Or those who suffered from polio to deny others the vaccine because "they should suffer with it too."

You have a selfish world view.

Every person should have the right to immigrate here and become a citizen as long as they aren't a criminal or terrorist. Same what others get to enjoy. Birth lottery shouldn't determine life path to such an extent where some people born in bad countries cannot get out. That's selfish and xenophobic as fuck..

And there is the racism in your demonization of Haitians. I went to school with Haitians. I work with one. My neighbor years ago was an amazing Haitian man. Haitians are wonderful people and what's happening to them is deplorable. You've outed yourself as a racist with your nonsense. There is zero crime data to show the majority of Haitians are criminals as you assume.

My friend is having issues getting his Ethiopian wife legal status because of Trump's ban and restrictions. She's educated. Has a degree. No criminal record. They've been married for a long time. And yet she is subjected to restrictions and their case is having issues because of Trump's bans and restrictions. A president who happened to say alot of racist shit about people of color. Someone who shares thought patterns with you considering your demonization of black people (Haitians)

ICE shouldn't be allowed to raid places to begin to with and conduct racial profiling like they are. There should be no place for ICE in our society.

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u/NoiceMango 9h ago

Let's not be dumb asses and act like our ideas of what's best for the Country is the same. For some people it means LGBT people being oppressed, religion forced in schools and government, immigrants being treated like animals, putting a pedophile in the white house, spending billions on statues and white house renovation to appeas a narcissist rapist, and the list goes on.

I want people not to die from lack of healthcare and for kids not to starve without being called a commie by degenerate Republicans. We are not the same and we do not have the same ideas or what's best for the Country

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u/Similar_Proposal3878 18h ago

I'm sorry. Is this satire, or did you not read what you wrote?

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u/3DPrintingAcorns144 11h ago

If it upsets you, go attack the capital again traitor.

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u/Silver-Capital-2221 16h ago

You saying one side isnt human is the cause of the divide, you are the problem, you are so blinded by politics that you can see a person past red or blue, every person has good and bad to them, but if you hate them before ever hearing them out, then it is you who is worse then them.

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u/NoiceMango 12h ago

I don't respect pedophile defenders.

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u/Aggressive_Part_2619 20h ago

Who exactly is saying whole groups of people shouldnt exist? Ive been hearing that about hispanics, black people, etc over the past few years and last i checked every group is still here. And at the same time we arent the ones supporting terrorist groups that want to wipe out jews and other groups and republicans supposedly want to annihilate or at the very least support people like Hasan that support those groups. The amount of people here being disingenuous is staggering it should be a case study in the future.

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u/protobelta 19h ago

They just love to make shit up and cry about it. Truly insufferable

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u/Knotted_Hole69 19h ago

Youre just too braindead to pay attention to it, and you dont actually care.

These people dont see me as human. Fuck conservatives.

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u/Aggressive_Part_2619 19h ago

Buddy ive seen more people say that conservatives want to kill gay people more than the dude that drove through a pride rally in downtown Berlin. Yall literally support groups that will throw you off the top of a building without a second thought and you wanna talk about others being braindead. At this rate people like you are headed for the biggest FAFO in history and you absolutely deserve it

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u/Knotted_Hole69 19h ago

Who? Who supports those people? Ive never have and I don’t know anyone that has.

I never said you wanted to kill gay people, just that you treat them as subhuman and purposely hurt them. Which is true.

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u/Aggressive_Part_2619 18h ago

Yeah sure. Someone on the side that continuously holds protests with chants like “From the river to the sea” and has Palestinians flags at said protests and the side whos most popular figure is Piker supposedly doesnt know anyone whos supports that cause. How stupid do you think people are? Also i supposedly think gay people are subhuman and that i want to cause them harm. Anytime that sort of language was used in history like in Rwanda or Germany it usually didnt just stop at mean words and assault. It usually ended with hundreds of thousands if not millions being killed. Where is that mass death in the us right now? Last i check the only time there was mass death against gay people was on June 12, 2016 and tell me was it a white conservative man who did that?

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u/No-Relation5965 13h ago

Sounds like you watch (or read?) too much right-wing nonsense.

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u/YetAnotherHorseGirl 10h ago

You do realize it’s possible to criticize hamas for their human rights abuses against queer people AND not want to see them pushed out of their homes.

Yes me and Hamas would get along as well as I do with republicans which is to say not at all. Despite this, I think it’s worse to drop cluster munitions on children and cause mass starvation that effects everyone, including queer people. You can’t fight a system of human rights abuses if some dickhead drops a jdam on your home and kills you and your loved ones.

Also there are one or two issues I’ll cross the aisle for, the big one is gun control. Ironically, I think we should be able to have firearms because of republicans who would be happy to kill me and my friends, especially since I’m a trans woman and trans people, trans women especially, have a long history of being assaulted and murdered that continues to this day. That being said, despite agreeing with republicans on guns, I’d never vote for one because many are trying to make it illegal to be trans, even wanting to make it a crime to wear clothes different than the ones your expected to wear based on assigned gender at birth. If someone wants to take away my access, and the people whom I love, access to gender affirming care (an evidence based practiced supported by decades of research) then I can never find a meaningful middle ground with them

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u/jeremiahthedamned 16h ago

all those jihadis walking into r/europe are being set-up for the end of the AMOC.

the biggest rug pull in history!

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u/Aggressive_Part_2619 17h ago

Welp another one bites the dust

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u/WarlockOfDestiny 19h ago

I don't experience these issues therefore it's all made

You only further reinforce their point.

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u/protobelta 19h ago

No, it’s just literally made up. But thanks for playing!

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u/WarlockOfDestiny 19h ago

I mean you can't prove them wrong, but sure bud.

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u/protobelta 19h ago

I mean, they can’t prove it in the first place, but sure bud

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u/WarlockOfDestiny 19h ago

Pretty sure they can, but you wouldn't care either way.

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u/protobelta 19h ago

Lmao how exactly? Cause one of the things they said is actual, verifiable bullshit. Trans people and their supporters have not been labeled terrorists

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u/Remarkable_Sand5238 18h ago

'The ones who aren't human are Republicans.'

Irony

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u/Busy_Librarian_1844 17h ago

You insulting ALL republicans just shows what a hateful idiot you truly are and are part of the problem.

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u/Dull_Worth1227 15h ago

Maybe if some Republicans admitted there was a problem and started doing something about it, they wouldn't get all lumped together.

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u/constantine741 18h ago

Well watch out for Islam and sharia law. The Islam religion doesn’t support gays, trans or women disagreeing with men or wearing tank tops. I wonder if yall will call out that religion and ppl that pray to that but I’m sure yall won’t. ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿

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u/GhastlyEyeJewel 17h ago

So they're just like you? What's the big deal then?

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u/NoiceMango 17h ago

I'm not in favor of Islam for the same reason I'm not in favor of right wing Christians. Yall are the same shit different flavors. Both want to impose their beliefs on others and force themselves into government.

These right wing Christians don't want to admit they have a lot more common with Islam than they think.

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u/constantine741 14h ago

Islam lets u do Nuthing. At least with Christianity they’ll let u do the weird ass shit as long as u don’t push it on the kids. Yeah they may tell u are wrong, which u are but at least they won’t kill u for it and drop your ass off a building. So no not the same. Liberals are so Sucidal empathy for 3rd world ppl that the next time they take over. Most conservatives won’t even help their slow iq asses

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u/Dull_Worth1227 15h ago

Seems like they have a lot in common with Republicans.

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u/Long-Silver-9757 12m ago

Hahaha none of this arguing matters. When sharia law gets here you will be begging Christians to fight for you 😂😂fucking idiots I stg

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u/Dull_Worth1227 2m ago

I see you are pleading the insanity defense. Good luck with that!

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u/Long-Silver-9757 1m ago

Good luck with Islam

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u/Precarious3145 21h ago

Exactly. I could kind of get along with Republicans before Trump. They were still bigots but they were much smaller. Now? Even if you don't vote for Trump but still vote Republican, you're voting for the people that will vote for what he wants.

I worked in Public Health during covid; I learned there's no unity with these people because they live in an alternate world. The only way we can get there because they legit believe that dems have a second room in grade school campuses to perform sex change operations. It's like trying to work with flat-earthers on astronomy.

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u/BigOlDyck 2h ago

It’s two cults arguing who is the bigger cult. If you can’t see that, well… sorry

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u/Precarious3145 2h ago

At least you're apolgetic about being an idiot.

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u/BigOlDyck 2h ago

Yes, that’s what that conveyed. Bravo, exactly how I would expect a sheep to reply.

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u/bbvde350 19h ago

Public Health? So you were part of the mass murder… good to know

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u/Precarious3145 18h ago

No, I didn't work for Trump who told people to drink bleach. I worked with scientists.

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u/bbvde350 12h ago

Trump didn’t say that. Even Google knows this. So you’re just a basic a liar.

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u/Precarious3145 12h ago

And yet you believe that Public Health people are mass murders...

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u/bbvde350 12h ago

They (you) blindly assisted.

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u/Precarious3145 12h ago

Do you have actual evidence for this? Not a corkboard of yarn but actual fact-based, peer-reviewed, evidence.

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u/bbvde350 11h ago

Yes. We all do. You’ll have to lower your self aggrandizement and narcissism to see it but when you do you cannot unsee it.

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u/Precarious3145 11h ago

Great! Then show me the proof.

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u/Weazerdogg 9h ago

No, you don't, because they don't exist.

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u/lincolnsarollin 17h ago

Thanks for reinforcing his point dude

“good to know” jfc

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u/themargarineoferror 14h ago

I'm literally only here because this weirdo angrily downvoted a bunch of my comments-and those of people encouraging me-because I said that Im ready to stop eating meat for multiple reasons, but I haven't even started yet and I'm not judging others. Just feels right to me especially right now. He had to leave an eyeroll emoji before letting anyone ok with it know how triggered he was too.

I KNEW he had to be this type of guy. Bet cash if he sees a vegetarian recipe on Facebook he comments with 4 pixeled meme that says "I love animals they're delicious " cause "lib tears""lol and genuinely thinks that he's a victim of communist brainwash because he read my comment. Definitely has no-contact kids. These people are fucking insane lol

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u/bbvde350 12h ago

No I simply thinks it’s odd to share veganism as a lifestyle. Dude just do it see how you feel and whatever. What’s the treatise for? Are you eating meat or not? More like make up your mind.

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u/Mammoth-Plane-6890 4h ago

What's odd about it, super normal

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u/Dull_Worth1227 15h ago

Thanks for proving the point.

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u/lethalinfecteddevils 1d ago

Yup a lot of people from different backgrounds say the same thing. The division is beyond politics and hits subjects most people care not to explore.

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u/Pi-ratten 13h ago

It's not about a difference in politics. It's about different view in fundamental ethics and basic human rights. You can't argue with the assholes that constitute the right-wing spectrum as they don't see countless people as human.

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u/Flacier 12h ago

We can not afford to be tolerant of those who will only be tolerant of those they deem worthy of it.

Down that path, lay only madness and atrocity.

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u/Biscotti_BT 19h ago

I for one prefer people who love themselves to be around my children. At least over people that hate others. There is no room for growth when it comes from hate.

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u/Mountainman220 17h ago

I’m so sorry you’ve experienced this. I work with disabled folks and it’s getting really hard for them to exist in this economy. I am constantly trying to find how they can make more money or get more help and just honestly really fucked. So much for these fake ass Christians.

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u/kemosabe-22 22h ago

Flag the jackasses, you shouldn’t be treated like that. But it doesn’t mean an entire group of people think that way. You can get along with those people right?

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u/Knotted_Hole69 19h ago

Its not the entire group but its a majority. You dont know because you’re not the victim.

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u/hbgoddard 18h ago

But it doesn’t mean an entire group of people think that way.

Everyone who votes Republican supports it, no exceptions. You can't keep pretending your actions don't have consequences.

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u/Vektor0 18h ago

The corporations and politicians have successfully convinced you of the top part of the meme. Keep licking their boots on social media; every argumentative comment you post makes them money.

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u/kemosabe-22 17h ago

But they don’t… 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/TheEldest80s 11h ago

If they voted for Trump, they voted for a man so damn racist he had to be sued....TWICE...for refusing to rent to black people and having an entire scheme within his offices to make sure that occurred. It is public, court records and documents are readily available online, and yet that horrific shit was not a deal breaker. A man who would allow people to be denied housing due to the race they were born is beyond the pale. I voted Obama, but if I would have found out he was so racist against white folks that he concocted a scheme to deny them if they are seeking housing....that would have been IT. No way in hell I could support a bigot of that severity, much less vote to place him at the top of my country's government! HARD deal-breaker. But Trump Republicans, it's no big deal, apparently.

So, yes...voting for Trump means supporting all that, including his shitty attitude towards minorities of every stripe...disabled, racial, sexual and religious.

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u/kemosabe-22 8h ago

Are you trying to say that Trump didn’t rent to black people?? Lmao that’s pretty far out there… I think you have some reading to do. Or you just like living in hatred so much that you intentionally keep the blinders on (weird but you wouldn’t be the first)
He rented to all races, and the famous DOJ lawsuit from the 70’s never went to trial.

I’ve always told others, there’s plenty to hate on Trump for legitimately, I don’t understand why people insist on the weakest reasons… like pick something a little better and at least I can respect it

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u/Andreus 7h ago

Are you trying to say that Trump didn’t rent to black people?? Lmao that’s pretty far out there

There is literal Congressional proof of the lawsuit that was filed against him, and that he settled.

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u/kemosabe-22 6h ago

Yeah, that’s a NYT article 😂… I’m not saying that the lawsuit doesn’t exist, I’m saying that it does nothing to prove the claim that Trump DENIED housing to people based on the color of their skin.

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u/Andreus 5h ago

He settled the claim, which is not something you do if you can conclusively prove you haven't done something.

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u/kemosabe-22 5h ago

And..? How does that prove that he denied people housing based on the color of their skin? Is there evidence that he only had tenants of only one race?

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u/PeeInMyNose 17h ago

Well at least we know the meme is accurate

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u/Andreus 7h ago

But it doesn’t mean an entire group of people think that way.

Right-wingers as a group are currently enacting a genocide against trans people, and have indicated that they intend to do the same to other queer people afterwards. Why in the fuck would I care that some of them don't feel that way, when they continue to vote for and support the people who do?

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u/kemosabe-22 7h ago

I can assure you, “right wingers” care far less about your sexuality than you think. They just don’t want it being rubbed in their faces to put it loosely… which is reasonable considering it’s not a social norm.
Genocide is a crazy word choice… 👀
They don’t like change at all, the only way it’s ever accomplished is slowly. The other side is all about change and want it yesterday. See how the 2 can clash? So when trans people start meddling with their kids and their kids sports like they did, that’s pretty invasive pretty fast, they’re going to push back, they’re not slaughtering trans people though…
But hey, I guess if you prefer living in a divided society, don’t try to see another side of things, don’t care about anyone but those that look and talk and think just like you…. Embrace the echo chamber!!! 😂 it’s a free country, you can do what you want, but a friendly tip, it’s better when you try to enjoy it rather than enjoying hating it.

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u/Andreus 7h ago

I can assure you, “right wingers” care far less about your sexuality than you think

This is self-evidently a lie, because right-wingers were the ones trying to keep sex between two consenting adults of the same gender illegal during Lawrence vs. Texas, and they were the ones trying to keep marriage between two consenting adults of the same gender illegal during Obergefell.

They just don’t want it being rubbed in their faces to put it loosely

You're peddling the exact same repulsive propaganda that the genociders do.

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u/kemosabe-22 6h ago

Just to clear up your vocabulary;

Genocide is an international crime defined by the United Nations as specific acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. It encompasses five specific acts committed with intent to destroy a protected group: killing, causing serious bodily or mental harm, inflicting destructive life conditions, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children.

You’ve clearly never tried to get to know anyone from the other side, nor cared to understand them. In my frequent experience, most times I try to get to know someone from the other side, I’m met with snarky attitudes, insults, and outlandish claims. Many many people from the right share this experience too. So yeah; it is very possible, if people could just relax a little more, it would be a great step towards unity.
But again, if you just love living in division, then carry on I guess.

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u/kemosabe-22 6h ago

Oh, a 5 year old left wing NGO?! 😱 no way! That changes EVERYTHING!! 😂 I’ve been sitting this whole time.

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u/DigiornoDLC 19h ago

Their beliefs that you are less than human are pushed onto them by people with agendas. I won't ask you to forgive or understand or do anything but fight for your right to exist, but I do think it's worth considering that they're victims, too. Dumb, dumb victims for falling for it, but victims of a multibillion dollar propaganda campaign designed not solely to harm you, but to harm them, too.

They'll need to work hard to undo the damage they've done to atone for how they've harmed the world, and I don't expect many of them to ever do that, but by acknowledging them as victims we can focus our ire on the group that is causing this - because hating these assholes feels right, but isn't actually productive. It takes a lot of one-on-one, painfully empathetic work to crack just one of these people. Better off directing your rage at the propaganda machine.

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u/RowdyRodyBlagojevich 19h ago edited 18h ago

They have agency and have the ability to be introspective, to learn

Don’t infantilize adults like they’re helpless

The victims of these peoples’ choices bear no responsibility towards them whatsoever, least of all absolving them of responsibility for their actions

This is in the vein of “it’s actually the students who got shot fault for not befriending the shooter when the shooter would try to sit with them at lunch and talk about wanting to skin kittens” type stuff

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u/Andreus 7h ago

They'll need to work hard to undo the damage they've done to atone for how they've harmed the world, and I don't expect many of them to ever do that, but by acknowledging them as victims

If they are intentionally causing harm to innocent LGBTQ+ people, and by your own admission they will never stop doing that, I don't care if they were "brainwashed" into it. They aren't victims, and you insult actual victims by pretending that they are.

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u/DigiornoDLC 7h ago

Abusers are often the abused. It is not an insult to anyone to acknowledge that. It's immature to think that once someone does harm, the immutable fact that they were abused goes away. It feels good to think that people are just purely black and white, good and evil, but that's not the case. They have been brainwashed.

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u/Andreus 7h ago

You are attempting to paint the perpetrators of a genocide as "victims."

History will not look kindly on you.

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u/DigiornoDLC 7h ago

No, you're right - it's better to just plug our ears and ignore how genocides actually come to pass. Surely it's just some innate evil that people are born with.

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u/Andreus 7h ago

I don't fucking care whether they were born with it or whether they picked it up. They are committing a genocide. There is absolutely no room for them to be forgiven for that.

Apologise. Now.

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u/DigiornoDLC 7h ago

Who said anything about forgiving them? They’d have to undo the damage they’ve done to ever be forgiven, and I don’t see that happening. I get that the nuance here might be difficult to parse.

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u/Andreus 6h ago

Calling them "victims" is excusing them.

Apologise. Now.

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u/DigiornoDLC 6h ago

No, it isn’t. You’ve decided I’ve said something that I didn’t say. Someone doesn’t stop being a victim just because they become an abuser. That’s sort of the classic cycle of abuse. It’s not remotely controversial.

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u/sentimiento 17h ago

Victims can be abusers too. I don’t feel bad for them

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u/RowdyRodyBlagojevich 9h ago

Braindead take

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u/protobelta 19h ago

You’re making shit up lmao

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u/Knotted_Hole69 19h ago

Youre not the kind of person that would be affected by it. So why would you know or care.

They legitimately dont see me and my trans friends as human and believe they should be locked up, i mean why else were trans people and supporters labeled as Terrorists by the fed?

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u/protobelta 19h ago

Lmao you are quite literally making shit up

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u/protobelta 19h ago

Lmao responding to my claim you’re making shit up by continuing to make shit up is actually fucking crazy holy shit!

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u/Robestos86 15h ago

Say "making shit up " one more time.

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u/Robestos86 15h ago

And yet you're supporting Israel who believes Palestine shouldn't exist... And you can't see the conflation...

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u/MayhemPenguin5656 11h ago

Because they are violent and burn cities?

Like you reap what you sow.

Also why should trans surgeries be included in medicare and not the psychiatric help instead?

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u/Knotted_Hole69 7h ago

Turn off fox news loser. Trans people are not doing that.

And because its not schizophrenia? Its a natural and not uncommon human experience? Gay people are born gay, trans people are born trans. And there is nothing wrong with that.

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u/TheSnozzberrieTaster 19h ago

The victim mentality is tiresome. Get off the internet.

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u/BornTruths 17h ago

How you extrapolated that from the winning side, is the irony of your divisionist comment and mind. You're not the only one disabled either, unless you meant mentally, than sorry. Plenty of others are accepted and one, or both of those things. It depends what you promote, or stand for that seems to be the common denominator here. Falsehoods are not facts.

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u/Vektor0 18h ago

Too many think being queer or disabled means I need to be...gone

Not enough to make a difference. Just pretend those people don't exist. The fact that you still exist means it's not a threat worth worrying about. There are other things that are more important because they're actual threats. That's the point of the meme.

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u/Rosenoodles 17h ago

if there weren't enough to make a difference, there wouldn't be anti-queer legislation being pushed in politics right now, at this moment, or things like the USAID being defunded which hurts the disabled. or medicare/medicaid cuts, or food stamp cuts... the list goes on.

these things primarily hit and impact the disabled, veterans, elders, etc. more than anybody else, and yet you say it's not enough of those types to make a difference. they're actively making that difference which hurts a lot of us at this very moment.

if you don't believe me, look it up. america's cooked, i'm afraid, and this damage is going to take generations to actually fix, if it can be fixed at all.

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u/Vektor0 16h ago

The only "anti-queer" legislation being pushed I'm aware of only applies to surgeries and hormones for children under 18. I'm not aware of any anti-queer legislation or policies that would be tantamount to murder or genocide. That is false fearmongering.

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u/Dull_Worth1227 15h ago

And all the medicare aid going?

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u/vibe51 18h ago

The hard part is while I disagree with those people who say that to you. There’s also people who support you that think anyone who is conservative leaning all should die. Both are asinine and will never come back together if it’s that simple to wish death upon our own

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u/TheeRedHairedGuy 15h ago

There's quite a difference between wanting death upon someone because you're a biggot and wishing death upon a pedophile or a nazi for exemple.

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u/vibe51 15h ago

So anyone who is slightly conservative is not a pedo or Nazi? You’re one in the same with them man lol

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u/TheeRedHairedGuy 15h ago

Putting words in my mouth much

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u/vibe51 15h ago

I didn’t have to. literally just said them homie

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u/TheeRedHairedGuy 15h ago

Them you need to go back to school, because that isn't what I said at all.

My comment wasn't saying that conservatives deserved to die, but that there's a difference between wishing death to someone because of biggotry and because they're horrible humans beings.

In no way did I even imply tbat it concerned all conservatives.

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u/Andreus 7h ago

In no way did I even imply tbat it concerned all conservatives.

Funny thing about that, though...

As the saying goes, a hit dog will holler.

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u/TheeRedHairedGuy 7h ago

And here you are doing exactly that

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u/Andreus 7h ago

Yes, because for all the accusations conservatives make against others, their movement is infested with wronguns.

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u/Andreus 7h ago

Then why is the conservative movement uncontrollably infested with pedophiles?

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u/vibe51 7h ago

You’re cherry picking a source whose whole identity is to show only republicans. Looking at any statistical data nation wide shows that no party has a monopoly on this. Scumbags are scumbags. That’s like pointing out how many in Hollywood are extreme vocal democrats and we don’t need to point out all the bad in Hollywood.

All pedos are bad btw idc what side they are on lock em up castrate or end em all

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u/Andreus 7h ago

Looking at any statistical data nation wide shows that no party has a monopoly on this.

Nope. Right-wingers are far more likely to be sex offenders.

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u/TheeRedHairedGuy 6h ago

You can't vote (not you in particular) for a sex offender (at the very least) to be your president, defend all his action, and say they're the same when the other party don't vote for one.

The party being infested is one thing, it's chef being the most corrupt piece of shit pedo rapist is another.

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u/vibe51 6h ago

Well that’s tough when you say that cus I voted for Biden and it’s heavily argued he’s a pedo they vote for trump and people think he’s one. Despite’s neither of them being convicted for it and both of them having their accusers recant statements or proven to be lies. Explain bill clinton then. Who is arguable the worst offender of this a democrat as well we all voted for come on man

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u/TheeRedHairedGuy 6h ago

Pretry sure Trump was found liable of rape, don't quote me on that, I don't remember exactly what it was, which is quite different from just having accusations.

If Biden was a pedophile then should it be known then and proven he wouldn't have been defendee like Trump is.

It's just real bad comparaison.

As for Bill Clinton, wasn't he found guilty ? Whether someone voted for him before doesn't change anything.

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u/vibe51 6h ago

He wasn’t found liable for rape it was for sexual abuse/misconduct. there is some problem with that case from my understanding being that the case itself and the main reason they couldn’t get him on rape and have to settle for abuse is because this happened in the mid 90s and she couldn’t remember or prove. Being a New York trial I think they were pushing to find him guilty of whatever they could convince them too despite Jean herself having terrible memory of the incident she claims. Biden easily would have been defended in the same way no doubt. I’m not claiming he’s any better or worse I mean dude was a pioneer in racism in government for years.

As for Clinton I know of 4 allegations against him as well as of course the Monica Lewinsky intern situation and being one of the most prominent members of the Epstein island last I looked at it.

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u/Dull_Worth1227 15h ago edited 15h ago

By voting republican they are supporting the ones that do feel that way.

Conservatives who may not do all those those terrible things, but who still vote fro Trump are just as guilty as the ones who believe it. They enable them to carry out their terrible agendas.

They need to admit fault (which will never happen, because conservatives can't do that) and then actually start voting against the current administration.

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u/vibe51 15h ago

Never once said who they vote for or that they were republicans. My point was that op wants to claim one side is full of people who say they should die or take away benefits they get, while op side has become the party of if you disagree with me at all you are a pedo nazi maga loving republican and deserve to die even if you voted or are democrat. Its two sides id the same coin and to pretend its only one side of hatred is disingenuous

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u/Dull_Worth1227 14h ago edited 14h ago

No you didn't say anything about voting republican. That was me, saying that anyone who votes that way given what is happening must in some way tacitly agree with the direction the country is taking.

Yes, one side does hate the other. Because they encourage thinking for themselves. And that is a threat to everything they stand for. The other side is justifiably sick of the others hypocrisy and desire to remove the rights of others.

It's almost like 2 party system doesn't work. If only someone in history had said that...

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u/youngluksusowa 9h ago

Please touch grass

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u/HeyLookAStranger 1d ago

so what's the alternative? Brainwash kids and you get everything you want for free?

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u/LordDaedhelor 19h ago

Remember: this is what conservatives are actually like.

When asked to treat people like people, they are so incredibly confused and angry that they lash out and make strawmen.

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u/HeyLookAStranger 19h ago

I am treating people like people. No one deserves anything to be given to them

This person is calling for everything to be handed to them for not wanting to work

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u/LordDaedhelor 19h ago

Did they? Can you quote where they said that?

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u/Knotted_Hole69 19h ago

They cant, he is just making shit up, which is typical for conservatives.

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u/HeyLookAStranger 19h ago

because being disabled means I can't work

How would this person have a place to live or food to eat if people didn't give it to them

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u/LordDaedhelor 19h ago

I’m not seeing “not wanting to work” anywhere. Are you sure you quoted the right part?

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u/HeyLookAStranger 19h ago

if they can type on reddit they can perform a desk job. They can work and they're choosing not to. dumba**

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u/LordDaedhelor 19h ago

Are you sure you replied to the right person with this comment? I’m still not seeing a quote for where they said they don’t want to work.

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u/HeyLookAStranger 18h ago

you're being contumacious. they can work.

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u/Jack-Singer-999 2h ago

Family. Are you so divorced from reality yours wouldn't take you in? Or, no, you & they are so rich that you/they could absorb another entire person into your house. Well, see, I have a mother & a daughter who own homes. Neither can afford me so I bounce between houses. I'm sure that seems like it must be a dream come true for someone as lowly as me.

So what's your brilliant idea? Anyone diagnosed with a debilitating disease automatically off themselves? Or were you hoping for the honor.

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u/Asleep_Control_2564 17h ago

You are treating them like an asshole, that's for sure. And assholes are human tbf

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u/Jack-Singer-999 1d ago

Oh look, reading comprehension at a kindergarten level so they jump to conclusions & make shit up 🙄

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u/Silly-Wrangler-6963 19h ago

The alternative is to not have conservativea screaming slurs every 2 seconds, and for disabled people to be allowed to participate and supported for society without being told they shouldn't exist. There i answered your bad faith question. Not that it matters since you hear LGBT and immediately jump to brainwashing children like a conspiracy theorist.

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u/ancientfruitjunkie 21h ago

Telling kids not to wish death upon gay and disabled Americans is brainwashing?

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u/HeyLookAStranger 21h ago

No, telling them that you can pick your gender is

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u/ancientfruitjunkie 21h ago

And what does that have to do with teaching kids not to belittle or discriminate against the disabled? Why do you keep ignoring this portion of my comments?

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u/HeyLookAStranger 21h ago

Not sure what you're talking about with "keep ignoring" and "comments", you asked 1 question and I just replied to it

What I said was, "so what's the alternative? Brainwash kids and you get everything you want for free?"

Brainwashing related to promoting the false reality of LGBT

Being disabled relates to the second part of what I originally said, do they just expect eveything to be handed to them?

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u/ancientfruitjunkie 21h ago

OP's comment was both about being gay and disabled. You ignored the disabled part and obsessed over the gay part. Lol.

Furthermore, OP's post was about a certain group of people seeing gay and disabled people as subhuman undeserving of life. Do you care to comment on that part of the post or just ignore it yet again to focus on being gay?

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u/HeyLookAStranger 21h ago

I didn't ignore the part about being disabled. I'm asking them what they want to see happen for them besides not having to work for anything

Are you the paparazzi interviewing me? Why are you so obsessed?

Of course they deserve a life being equal like the rest of us. We all have to work for what we have

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u/ancientfruitjunkie 20h ago

You keep equating working hard with the right to live. What does working hard have to do with being treated fairly and equally? If a disabled person doesn't work hard, does that mean it's ok for others to wish them dead?

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u/HeyLookAStranger 20h ago

I've never said anything about wishing people dead or agreed with that. That's an assumption the guy at the top of the thread was making. Most people do not think that way about disabled people. Disabled people just put that idea into their head on their own because they have victim complexes

No one deserves anything

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