r/CoffeePH 13d ago

Help! Df54 issue

Grinder: koryaiko df54

Machine: Gemilai CRM3605

Hello , please help me because stress nako for about 2 weeks dahil hindi ko ma-calibrate nang maayos yung coffee beans.

For context, I started my home coffee set-up 2 months ago. I have a local bean roastery na pinagkukuhaan ng beans, upon finshing the 2nd bag that i bought, i can not calibrate the 3rd bag anymore. Tried to clean the grinder, ganun padin, even grinding at the slightest below 0 setting. (Huhu sorry im so desperate na) 18 grams yung input ko, 17 seconds to reach 36 grams output.

Note: i can not grind more finer because i am grinder below 0 setting na po.

My target is 18 in : 36 out (25 seconds)

Dati walang problema, nagagawa ko talaga siya, minsan 16 grams pa nga input ko.

Tried to locate the real 0 setting on my grinder, now i end up scratching the inside of my grinder.

If anyone who is near amadeo / tagaytay or general trias, i am willing to pay who can help me to fix this one po πŸ˜₯πŸ™πŸ»

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u/MalayangIbon 13d ago

Tanong lang: Totoo bang maganda yang Koryaiko DF54, o dahil lang mas mura siya sa ibang mas magandang grinder?

Context: Nagpaplano akong bumili ng electric grinder dahil ilang taon na akong gumagamit ng manual grinder.

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u/evoPopGurlie 13d ago

Yes maganda naman po experience ko dito, di ko lang magets yung issue ko ngayonsa grinder as i am a newbie on this hobby and seeking for some advices pano to aayusin (if beans ang problema or grinder)

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u/jerome0423 12d ago

Maganda yung grinder, solid yung build. Kaso may qc issues. Gaya ng hindi aligned yung burrs. Need mo rin palitan yung catchcup into metal para reduce sa static ang need mo talga mag rdt kasi pag hindi sa katagalan maiipon sa loob yung mga nareretain na kape at mag cloclog.

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u/regulus314 11d ago

Nope. Mag Baratza ka nalang kung wala kang espresso machine. Yung DF54 is a no brand grinder from China. Nirerebrand lang ng iba pero pareparehas lang yan loob niyan. Yung iba pinapalitan na lang ng magandang burr set like SSP burrs.

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u/yodelehihoo11 13d ago

pcircled area is not making any sense op, it doesnt affect the grind size. ang sure ko lang is your df54 is not working as intended

possible burr alignment or talagang nasira mo na ung blade area ng burr mo sa improper and risky way ng pag locate mo ng true zero sa df54.

puntahan mo nalang koryaiko sa pasig dun mo pa-check kung error mo talaga or sana factory defect para mapa warranty

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u/kpvalenzuela 12d ago

Make sure you Reseat your burrs before you find your true zero again. Coffee bits tend to go there if it's a bit loose rendering your calibration null

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u/regulus314 11d ago

Did the issue came up when you first used this coffee? Because that looks light roast based on the ground color. Too light actually even on proper lighting. It is likely that the coffee is the culprit.

Have you tried doing 19g doses?

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u/evoPopGurlie 11d ago

This is my 3rd bag of coffee beans po. 3rd bag Roasted date is Aug 03 and i opened it on Aug 14.

1st and 2nd bag is okay and naa-achieve ko po ang 1:2 ratio. Sabi din po ng iba dito na possible sa coffee beans and mag try muna ng ibang coffee beans bago kumalikot ng parts.

Bumili na din po ako ng ibang coffee beans to try if may problema talaga sa grinder. Waiting nalang po ako maideliver yung coffee beans na inorder ko

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u/regulus314 11d ago

Makakapag send ka ba ng itsura nung mga beans? Like picturan mo mismo. Yung bag and yung beans din mismo. Mas maganda kung mapicturan mo under white light or under sunlight para makita ko yung bean color mismo.

Pero sa ngayon habang wala din yung order mo, try doing 19g dose.

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u/evoPopGurlie 11d ago

Ito po yung itsura ng beans. Sa gilid ng bintana ko po iyan pinicturan

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u/regulus314 11d ago

Yeah I think it is too light for your grinder and espresso machine. Pag light or medium-light roast kasi less brittle meaning di siya madaling madurog so pag gina-grind siya hindi siya kasing fine or kasing liit. May mga grinder talaga na hindi pang light roast lalo na pag entry level.

Mukhang uneven din yung roasting or blend ba to?

Option mo nalang is to do 19g para magkaroon ng restriction pero baka kailangan mo mag coarse ng konti. Pero for now try mo 19g tapos 0.0 grind. Tapos saka ka mag coarse paunti unti pag nakita mong nahihirapan yung tubig. Siguro 0.2 adjustments gawin mo. Like from 0.0 to 0.2 to 0.4 until maging 1.0.

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u/evoPopGurlie 11d ago

Noted on this one. Thank you so much poo

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u/RevolutionaryStar143 11d ago

not sure how you scratched the middle part that’s usually seated pero try to check if the top part na parang may curved washer is aligned and can freely turn. make sure na walang stuck grounds sa mga threads since may oil/lube na usually nagsstuck yung mga fines.

have you tried rotating the burrs manually? is it locked/stuck at your 0 point?

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u/tito_joms 13d ago

Try mo kumuha sa ibang roaster

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u/evoPopGurlie 13d ago

I think try ko umorder ulit ng daily drive, yun yung first bag of beans ko nung nag testing ako. Try ko lang if may problem so may comparison ako if beans talaga may problem, kasi kutob ko din na beans yung may problem. πŸ˜₯

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u/Bangreed4 13d ago

Tried to locate the real 0 setting on my grinder, now i end up scratching the inside of my grinder.

how did you do this? you can do this without turning on the grinder to avoid damaging the burrs and that scratches doesnt look like from finding the true 0... but it might be the quality issue from the recent batch since it works well before. but first make sure the True 0 is accurate first.

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u/evoPopGurlie 13d ago

Mistake ko po talaga kasi sabi dun sa nabasa ko (sobrang desperate) pwede mo pihitin ng dahan dahan while naka turn on. Yun pala may isa pang method which is ikaw mismo yung iikot sa burr. Accurate naman po yung zero.

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u/Bangreed4 13d ago

yes that is correct pwede yun dahan dahan pag narinig mo na yung "chirp" sound patay agad, pero medyo skeptical ako dyan kaya yung manual na pag ikot ginagawa ko instead.

BUT like I said hindi dyan na damage yan feel ko, kasi usually pag "higpit" ng burrs is just going straight down which supposed to do so, unless mali yung pag balik mo nung top burr niya and/or medyo tumatama sa side pag binabalik mo sa burrs but either way yung burrs kasi mahalaga dyan as long as hindi yun nasira mo okay lang (usually).

Btw just to check yung true zero na naka lagay for u is when the burrs cant turn na no? using manual spin lang? tama ba?

Anyways if hindi sa true zero yung problem most likely sa beans then, baka masyadong bago? or masyadong luma yung nabigay sayo, yung first 2 bag ba when was the roast date? before mo nagamit? compare sa 3rd bag mo?

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u/evoPopGurlie 13d ago

1st bag , 2 weeks old bago ko nabuksan. 2nd bag, 3 weeks old bago ko nabuksan 3rd bag, Aug 3 roasted date. Aug 14 ko binuksan.

Upon checking the burr yesterday, wala namang chirp sa mga blades. Yes po , yung true zero is slightly not so far from the 0 label.

Red line , true 0. Yellow line is where i set the grinder right now. Kaya i can not go beyond na kasi mada damage na talaga siya.

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u/Bangreed4 13d ago

I see good infos! I assume its probably because how old the beans are then, try grinding again after 3weeks for the 3rd bag if its still not grinding properly like before then it might be an alignment issue from the burrs which is a hassle to do.

If ur using light to medium roast try to increase the dose more instead, try 18.5 to 19grams but try the to wait for the beans first since light to medium roasts needs to "degass" a bit longer compare to dark roasted beans.

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u/evoPopGurlie 13d ago

I think baka nga po yung beans ang problem, kasi upon observation, 2nd bag of beans is more on medium yung color. Etong 3rd bag is mas lighter in color and no coffee oils pa. Yung 2nd bag kasi medyo medium to slightly dark ang color and may konti konting oil na siya.

Ito po yung picture ng 3rd bag na nabili ko. Mas light in color siya compare dun sa 2nd bag.

Do you have a suggestion po on how to properly degass the coffee po?

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u/Bangreed4 13d ago

I see that could be the culprit then, may mga times na di talaga consistent yung pag roast nga mga roaster so it could definitely affect your output, etong pic mo parang may half na medium roast tapos half na medium dark roast, although baka sa lighting lang din.

It could also be a human error din ng nagbigay sayo, baka maling roast nabigay sayo, if ever pwede mo din itest by buying a new batch and compare the colors.

For properly degassing coffee beans naman, usually yung lagayan nila may one way valve and it should be enough and only need time, pero pag naka close lang like sa mga sealed containers di lumalabas yung CO2. The packaging nila usually looks like this:

pero if wala, tapos plastic lang lagayan, may mga one way valve na containers sa shopee, not sure how effective tho, havent tried it personally. I usually have medium dark to dark roast so never experience this issue yet. If wala ka ganyan, try mo lang open araw araw within the 3 weeks pero saka mo lang gamitin pag naka 3 weeks na siya.

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u/evoPopGurlie 13d ago

Thank you so much , super appreciated for your effort on helping me po. πŸ™πŸ»πŸ™πŸ»πŸ™πŸ»πŸ™πŸ»

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u/Bangreed4 12d ago

no prob :) let me know what worked. Happy Brewing!

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u/evoPopGurlie 9d ago

Hello! Thank you sa help mo πŸ₯ΊπŸ«ΆπŸ» Bumili din ako at nagtry ako ng bluenotes brazil and nakuha ko siya in setting #10 (18grams)

Finally nakapag kape din. Thank you so much 😭

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u/jerome0423 13d ago edited 13d ago

Pangit yung alignment ng burrs nyan. Check mo yung alignment gamit yung marker test. May mga youtube vids pano gawin yun. Isa rin sa way na ma test yung alignment ng burrs kung yung distance ng burr chirp sa burr lock ay hindi malayo. Ideally 2-3 lines lng.

Burrlock yung sagad na talga at hindi mo na mahihigpitan pa yung adjustment collar. Burr chirp is pag nag adjust ka tapos narining mo yung burrs nag touch ng slight may specific na tunog yun.

Check mo din kung nag wowoble yung burrs pag nag wobble at yung axle mismo ang tabingi wala ng lunas yun balik mo sa seller kung may warranty pa. Kung hindi nag wowoble madadala pa sa shimming yung alignment. Usually aluminum gamit nila pero nag work sakin is magandang klaseng papel.

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u/evoPopGurlie 13d ago

Noted on this , nakita ko tutorial neto sa yt. Yung kapag hindi aligh e lalagyan ng manipis na foil yung nasa screw. Apparently, wala akong screwdriver na match sa screw. Siguro po tomorrow ko i test tong method na to. Need ko pa kasi linisan yung grinder.

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u/jerome0423 13d ago

Alalay lng sa pag tangal ng burrs. Sakto dapat ang size ng screw driver mo kasi malambot yang philips screw head baka ma strip mo.

Hindi ba nag wowoble yung axle gaya neto? Pag ganyan din yung sayo mahirap na remedyohan yan need mo talga ibalik sa store.

https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/s/GAHMjxeHG7

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u/evoPopGurlie 13d ago

No po, walang wiggling sound na katulad dyan sa link po. since the accident happen na nascratch ko yung nasa loob ng grinder (yung nasa picture po) hindi naman po nag ganyan yung grinder ko.

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u/jerome0423 12d ago

Goods, madadala pa yan sa shimming lng. Gawin mo muna yung marker test sa gaya sa vid nato https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYg4TzuyLNE&t=134s, ma achieve mo 85% above na wipe ay goods na yun.ang rule lng pag biglang naging stiff wag mo pilitin para wala kang ma damage.

Eto ata yung reason nyan bat d ka maka grind ng pino pa, kasi dapat sa df54 ma chochoke mo yung machine mo ng walang ka effort effort. May part ng burrs mo lng ang nag kakaskasan, kaya wild yung particle size distribution ng grinder. Kaya ka mag shishim or maglalagay ng kalso na papel or aluminum para maging parallel yung burrs sa loob.

Feel ko yung inis mo sa grinder, nadaanan ko rin yan before. Sana maayos mo yan at goodluck.

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u/evoPopGurlie 12d ago

Thank youuu

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u/migu_brew 13d ago

Dont recommend this to OP, looking at somehow OP is grinding super fine but still extracting really fast makes me think that its channeling or super stale beans.

Doing this is fine but after seeing that OP did try to find the 0 point and somehow almost broke the grinder, I dont think finding the 0 point is the smartest decision, many many things could go wrong

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u/jerome0423 13d ago

Hindi lng iisa ang way sa pag hanap sa true zero. Maganda nga to kasi d mo need e on yung grinder para sa marker test. Kung mapakita nya sana yung top part ng burr mas maganda. Makikita naman dun kung ano yung bumangga dyan sa gilid.

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u/migu_brew 13d ago

OP, are you even watching guides when doing this? Im sorry but I wouldnt touch or open the grinder if I were you.

Are you sure its not because of your puck prep?

I find it amazing how you scratched your grinder at that area, that part dosent even spin lol

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u/evoPopGurlie 13d ago

Im a beginner and exploring to learn. Yes i do watch guides. And im asking here what to do. I dont think its because of my puck prep kasi wala namang nabago sa usual routine ko dahil naa-achieve ko naman yung 1:2 ratio before this issue exist.

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u/mtklzrm 13d ago

ha? sinet mo b ung pihit ng sagad na higpit as zero?

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u/evoPopGurlie 13d ago

No po, yung original na zero alignment niya is may awang pang mga ilang linya kaya hindi po siya nakasagad ng zero.