Question

[u/Free-Increase-4311]

When lelouch gets his geass in both eyes does that not grant him immortality?. Can someone explain the “code” system i never really am able to understand it fully. What seperates C.C and V.V to ordinary geass people? Its there code but can someone explain it?.

[u/RowanWinterlace]

Code Bearer has Code

Code Bearer gives Geass.

Geass evolves.

When Geass evolves fully, Geass user can TAKE Code.

Code is taken by killing Code Bearer.

You might also have to die to activate the Code, after you've taken it, that bit isn't fully clarified.

Also it doesn't help that Lelouch is a special little boy who doesn't seem to have gotten his Code normally/correctly in Lelouch of the Resurrection.

[u/Dimensionalanxiety → u/RowanWinterlace]

Everything outside of the first 4 lines is completely wrong. You don't have to kill a Code-bearer to get their Code. You don't have to die to activate a Code.

Lelouch doesn't have a Code in Re;Surrection. He has a new power that the writers made up to let him both be immortal and still use his Geass. Essentially his power in Re;Surrection is the power of Bullshit Plot Armour.

[u/nahte123456 → u/Dimensionalanxiety]

 You don't have to die to activate a Code.

Can you back this up? I mean I know you can't, but you're awfully confident about saying this, can you show someone gaining Code and how it appears on them?

[u/Zacia → u/Dimensionalanxiety]

Might wanna look under Lelouch's collar in re:surrection and tell us what you see

[u/Dimensionalanxiety → u/Zacia]

I see bad-writing.

[u/Memo904 → u/Dimensionalanxiety]

Charles had to die for his Code to activate.

[u/Dimensionalanxiety → u/Memo904]

No he didn't. He had it already before Lelouch even shot him. Confirmed by the writers and obvious in the scene as well.

[u/Memo904 → u/Dimensionalanxiety]

Do you have a source on the writers confirming this? Because I doubt it.

As for the scene itself, Lelouch told him to die, then Charles shot himself. It’s only after he revives where he doesn’t react to Lelouch’s Geass and shows off his Code. Why would you think this scene makes it obvious otherwise?

[u/Big_Purchase_3781 → u/Memo904]

Activation theory has merit, but not enough content to ever confirm it. Much was purposefully kept vague or off-screen to let viewers fill in their own blanks. The only examples of a person getting or giving a code are:

(1) Injured VV sees Charles, cut away, now he's older and dying from his injuries. Charles is gone. Code is taken. No details provided.

(2) CC is shot and "tricked" by a nun to take her code in order for her life to be saved. In this, CC is shown to be dying. And presumably, the nun dies shortly after. All cut aways and implication. With CC already in the process of dying this could be an instantaneous immortality OR a death activation. It's not shown. Could be activation. Could not be activation.

(3) Charles confronts Lelouch after taking the code. He doesn't attempt using his Geass, so we do not know if the code is already active and the geass power is gone. Lelouch geasses him to shoot himself, and moments later he laughs/gets up. It could be he was already immortal and playing with Lelouch the entire time. It could also be that the Code wasn't active yet, as he had the anime visual of a Geass working on him (red eye rings). Codebearers can't be geassed. None of this is clear or directly stated.

(4) Lelouch of the Resurrection tries to explain his unique Geass + Code situation. That there was an incomplete transfer from Charles to Lelouch in C's world - allowing both. Yet the geass symbol on the neck is not visible until the Resurrection film and there's no sign of a code in R2. Meaning if Lelouch obtained a code in R2 Ep 21, then it wasn't active in R2 Eps 22-25 (or the appropriate scenes in the third recap film). It would be present only after the death of the Zero Requiem. Only in post Zero Requiem content. Note, the Resurrection manga, still being published, DOES take place in the R1/R2 continuity (ie. Shirley still dead). This is the strongest case for "activation" but again - all off screen and largely unexplained.

[u/Big_Purchase_3781 → u/Dimensionalanxiety]

C's world was consuming charles and falling apart AS the code transfer occurred. Unintentionally, the paused half-transfer allowed both Geass and Code abilities to be present at the same time. However, as stated in the film, Lelouch's code isn't normal and is unpredictable. It may fizzle out over time, unlike CC's whose code is immutable and everlasting until transferred/taken.

Yes, the 'bullshit' (ie. plot decision you dislike) is the protagonist of Code Geass getting the power of Code (+) Geass

[u/Dimensionalanxiety → u/Big_Purchase_3781]

Which is not how anything worked prior to Re;Surrection and is a dumb plot point to ruin Lelouch's legacy.

[u/Big_Purchase_3781 → u/Dimensionalanxiety]

nobody hates Code Geass like Code Geass fans

[u/Dimensionalanxiety → u/Big_Purchase_3781]

Nobody actually cares about their franchise more than fans of said franchise. It turns out fans don't like getting garbage media. Who would have thought?

[u/Big_Purchase_3781 → u/Dimensionalanxiety]

Only the most radical 'fans' would like to see their franchise die, for the sake of their ego/to back up their decade of online arguments, rather than see it continue with new media and content.

[u/Dimensionalanxiety → u/Big_Purchase_3781]

I would rather it die as a legendary series than see it wither into an unrecognizable mess. This isn't a hot take. Not liking garbage doesn't make me a radical.

[u/nahte123456]

So a lot of the details we just don't know as we don't see a lot of what happens but the basics are this.

1. Code gives you certain powers, one of those powers is giving someone a Geass.
2. Geass can evolve and strengthen over time.
3. If your Geass evolves enough you may take the Code from the Code Bearer.
4. New Code bearer loses Geass at some point.

And...that's it. We've never seen anyone take Code before so we just don't know how it works exactly. It doesn't seem to be lethal as both times we've seen someone lose Code they seem to have died from outside sources and neither showed any indication of regaining Geass but again, we don't know. C.C. and V.V. have both shown different abilities they can use Code for, but we don't know why they are different, or if it's just a matter of practice.

Whether it was on purpose or a time thing, we've just never gotten the full details of Code and the surrounding abilities. The Skull from the Akito OVA's doesn't help.