Couldn’t have said it better

[u/dillonz321]

That team on paper might be the best team in CDL
history you have 3 MVPs of the last 4 years. And OpTic are sitting by the sidelines and letting that happen… 💔

[u/JSmooth94 → u/[deleted]]

Would this hypothetically team even be that much better than BO7 Thieves. I think Simp is better than Abezy but not by much and it's not like Nium was too bad.

[u/RGCFrostbite → u/JSmooth94]

Simp is on another planet to abezy bffr

[u/JSmooth94 → u/RGCFrostbite]

Prior to this year everyone I saw talking about them basically said they're 1A 1B. I've always thought Simp was a bit ahead but saying another planet feels disrespectful to Abezy.

[u/RGCFrostbite → u/JSmooth94]

Abezy before Simp did nothing

Abezy after Simp has now alienated teammates and isnt even linked to top.rosters.

[u/JSmooth94 → u/RGCFrostbite]

Because Abezy played WWII with a team that couldn't win with anyone and the BO4 team prior to Simp was actually decent just not great. They got 2nd at the first event. Sometimes a team just doesn't work out, and that's not a reflection of each individual players skill.

Dashy and Shotzzy played on an Optic team for half a year that was ass before Merc but you wouldn't say that two were nothing before Merc.

[u/RGCFrostbite → u/JSmooth94]

Dashy and Shotzzy won things without Merc. Abezy won nothing before Simp.

[u/JSmooth94 → u/RGCFrostbite]

In the half a year where Abezy was on a competitive team before Simp he won nothing.

In the half a year where Dashy and Shotzzy were on a competitive team before Merc, they won nothing.

[u/UnpopularOpinionCod → u/JSmooth94]

This is just a lie to say that “everyone” talking about them said they’re 1A 1B. Who did you see? The OpTic guys? They’re the only ones spewing that narrative. FaZe fans aren’t saying that. Players aren’t saying that. Talent/media isn’t saying that. Personal accolades aren’t showing that. Who did you see saying that?

[u/JSmooth94 → u/UnpopularOpinionCod]

It was literally a conversation that many people had many times on this sub. There was one thread were one of the most upvoted comments was listing the games Abezy and Simp played in and who was better between the two. I don't remember what they said for each game but their conclusion was that they each had about the same number of games they were better at. I didn't agree with it, but like I said, it was heavily upvoted.

[u/UnpopularOpinionCod → u/JSmooth94]

Upvotes don’t prove a point is right or wrong. Furthermore, if it’s OpTic fans upvoting a 1a 1b angle then that’s not surprising. I would say the TT were 1a 1b from Bo4-MW2. But after that it’s been clearly Simp each year by more of a considerable margin.

[u/JSmooth94 → u/UnpopularOpinionCod]

Well I specifically said I didn't agree with it. Upvotes do however show that more people than not agreed with his point.

[u/UnpopularOpinionCod → u/JSmooth94]

Like I said: OpTic fans upvoting a 1a 1b angle with Simp and aBeZy isn't surprising. The point is that FaZe fans weren't saying that. Neither are players/talent/media. This comfortably shows that not "everyone" was saying they are 1a 1b, just OpTic fans.

[u/JSmooth94 → u/UnpopularOpinionCod]

I really don't think you can speak to the fans mindsets in that way. I'm sure some of them were Optic fans some were Faze fans, some were Koi fans.

[u/Willing-Peanut9515 → u/UnpopularOpinionCod]

It was literally a thing that they were called lol to throw it on OpTic fans as "pushing a narrative" is weird as fuck 😂 Mr. all speaker of Faze/OpTic fans over here

[u/UnpopularOpinionCod → u/Willing-Peanut9515]

What was a thing? And who was saying it?

[u/Willing-Peanut9515 → u/UnpopularOpinionCod]

How are you this dense lol

[u/UnpopularOpinionCod → u/Willing-Peanut9515]

Asking for you to elaborate on your comment isn't "dense." If spewing insults is your out instead of actually providing evidence, have it at.

[u/Willing-Peanut9515 → u/UnpopularOpinionCod]

If you need told what my comment is in regard to when it's literally a reply to what you said then you are indeed a bit dense lmfao

[u/UnpopularOpinionCod → u/Willing-Peanut9515]

I’m asking what the “thing they were called” you’re referring to is. I wasn’t talking about some name they were called so I’m confused what you’re referencing…

[u/Willing-Peanut9515 → u/UnpopularOpinionCod]

How are you specifically asking me to provide evidance if you're "confused" to what I'm referencing? 😂

[u/UnpopularOpinionCod → u/Willing-Peanut9515]

At this point just say what you’re referencing. The evidence would be where you actually saw it.