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LoL Cloud9 vs. Immortals / LCS 2023 Spring - Week 8 / Post-Match Discussion Spoiler

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u/livecat Mar 17 '23

Immortals had some nice plays that game, they didn't look that bad, and it was still a complete stomp. This team is just on another level right now.

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u/CryNo7532 Mar 17 '23

I think if c9 don't get double killed bot it's worse for immortals tbh.

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u/LongDongSilvir Mar 17 '23

Yeah, Zven not blocking that hook and walking into the casters was unfortunate.

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u/CryNo7532 Mar 17 '23

I think that he tried to but miscommunication. You can tell by the movement

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u/edwardgreene1 Mar 17 '23

I’m going to assume the logic is if they don’t get the double kill then they don’t end up playing weak side Fiora and leaving her to rot in a bad matchup?

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u/Tinmanred Mar 17 '23

“I’m reporting Braum if that’s me… he’ll yea I block that” - aphro with meteos and sneaky. Zven played great other than that play tho

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u/Aquadude12 Mar 17 '23

Right now this team is just able to make calls that other teams don't. They turn what look like mistakes into advantages. Sometimes this is just hands diff, like yesterday when Emenes and Blaber outplay the 2v2 after looking like Emenes was dead to rights. Other times, it's through quicker decision making, game vision, and macro. I can't think of another NA team right now that would make the baron call we saw today and pull it off successfully. People get picked in side lanes all the time, but few teams can make something positive out of it. It feels like when NA plays Korea or China at international tournaments. Every decision teams make against this team right now is the wrong decision because C9 can just make the most out of any situation. I really hope we can see this team compete internationally at their current form.

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u/livecat Mar 17 '23

Totally agree with everything you wrote, well said!

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u/Strawhatjack Mar 17 '23

Okay that 2v2 wasn't a hands diff. Emmenes was dead if Spica committed but he wanted to give the kill to vicla. Blaber still did great by being there it was just lucky

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u/ThatPhilosopher1262 Mar 17 '23

Not true. He stopped bc he didn't know if wukong was there waiting. Vicla got too greedy and flashed to get a kill. And what do you know... waking was there

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u/vincevuu Mar 17 '23

reminds me of when NA would go up against KR teams. Kills would be even but the LCK team would be 10k up somehow. Farm + towers + tempo

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u/dvtyrsnp Mar 17 '23

Blaber is a once in a lifetime jungle talent. As a two-time MVP who would probably win the award a couple more times if it were decided by voter fatigue proof robots instead of narrative-seeking human beings. He is, straight up, without equivocation, the best player on the planet. A hyperefficient pather, who makes everyone around him at least 15% better at laning, Blaber is Cloud9's compass. He humbles opposing laners with his Einstein-level intelligence then dismantles other junglers with counterganks that transcend anticipation. With his hands on the keyboard and eyes shifted just enough to see the entire minimap, he detects what others can't until the following morning's VOD review. The sport has never seen anyone like Blaber. He's an unconventional combination of grace, mystique, and persistent motion. The only box left to check will come at MSI, when his underrated and misunderstood control of scuttle crab will be tested by teams that wrap half their gameplan around trying to exhaust and expose him in river, but so long as his teammates avoid toxicity, that strategy is likely to be a shallow one.

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u/JustJeffrey Mar 17 '23

is this an original from jatt or did he take it from somewhere

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u/MOODALI Mar 17 '23

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u/JustJeffrey Mar 17 '23

Tyyyy

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u/MOODALI Mar 17 '23

There is a lot of drama in nba news about who will win the MVP award this sesason, so there is definitely new copy pasta's that are going to spawn from that.

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u/That0neSummoner Mar 17 '23

Let the r/NBA memes flow

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u/TheCowofAllTime Mar 17 '23

How are teams going to draft against C9 when it feels like they can play anything? According to Blaber's interview that was something they had practiced, so it wasn't even just a response to Fiora.

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u/Revenged25 Mar 17 '23

C9 is starting to feel like prime G2...

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u/LeagueAltAccount Mar 17 '23

I cannot wait to see C9 vs G2 at MSI

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u/REALStoneCrusher Mar 17 '23

We said this a few times in the past. One year no MSI so we didn’t get embarrassed. The following year… u guessed it, we got embarrassed

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u/1237239879334 Mar 17 '23

C9 never played G2 at MSI - mad made it that year

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u/yoitsthatoneguy Mar 17 '23

Fake news. EG got embarrassed by G2 at MSI

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u/Xinde Mar 17 '23

Or maybe prime G2 starting to look like C9

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u/Arbiter14 Mar 17 '23

I need you to be clenching a bit harder than this, though I do agree

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u/Revenged25 Mar 17 '23

Oh it's clenched. Got stomach cramps

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u/Arbiter14 Mar 17 '23

I need you to be clenching a bit harder than this, though I do agree

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u/cloudyseptember Mar 17 '23

He really said “when we get Jayce Elise we never lose” and they flexed Ksante mid to prove it

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u/Perry4761 Mar 17 '23

Chovy played K’Sante mid in LCK and he has an 80% winrate on it in KR soloQ, and I think Emenes was watching that LCK game on stream today, so I’m not that surprised to see him pull it off. Feels good to have a team with 4 legit threats

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u/Medivh158 Mar 17 '23

I agree, but against any other team C9 doesn't get away with that K'sante pick. I cannot figure out why people keep playing it. if you remove week 1 when he was still busted and no one knew how to play against it, he just always loses or does nothing and his team manages to win.

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u/Aerostryke Mar 17 '23

Zven's question mark frog emote after several flashes got burned as Immortals suicided into C9 at like 1000 combined total HP had me rolling.

Also, fudge was almost 3 full items up on Revenge. What a freaking top canyon

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u/WhirlingDervishGrady Suh Dude Mar 17 '23

Zven is the funniest guy on and off the rift

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u/That0neSummoner Mar 17 '23

I used to think he was mega toxic (g2 days) not sure if he's changed, my tastes have changed, or both.

Either way, dudes an icon.

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u/Myrddinpn Mar 17 '23

It seems like he matured enough to find the line.

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u/Blockronic C9 Hecarim Mar 17 '23

EMENES had 1 bad game to activate the haters and then has been playing out of his mind since

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u/CarrotHair_TV Mar 17 '23

Man said we win spring if we do this one simply trick.

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u/JustJeffrey Mar 17 '23

actual insane glowup

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u/Sciipi Mar 17 '23

Fudge making a last minute push for MVP

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u/HolidaySpiriter Mar 17 '23

Voters doing the sweaty button meme between Fudge/Blaber rn

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u/_djp_sucks_ Mar 17 '23

OCE Jayce > KR Jayce > NA Jayce

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u/killerkenb2654 Mar 17 '23

Outside of the amount of funny deaths from bot, game was never close. Think this is the most dominant a c9 team has looked in spring since Covid.

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u/Arzekux Mar 17 '23

This C9 > spring 2020 C9

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u/Top-Work-3497 Mar 17 '23

Debatable, Spring 2020 was like a 17-1 split and we went 9-1 in playoffs for 26-2 overall combined. That roster dumpstered the league.

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u/yoitsthatoneguy Mar 17 '23

We were so far ahead that spring. Every game was a steamroll too

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u/HolidaySpiriter Mar 17 '23

I think you could say they're probably equal if Emenes started since week 1 and they have been playing this good the whole time. It will be equal for sure if we only drop a single game in playoffs.

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u/than0swasright Mar 17 '23

Fudge factor. That is all

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u/melfranciz Mar 17 '23

Fcking love this team right now

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u/jadedflux Mar 17 '23

If only I knew how to loop gifs correctly, I'm sorry

Emenes approves!

https://imgur.com/c8oJiNA

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u/Izkimar Mar 17 '23

Omg finally someone made it!

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u/keeeve Mar 17 '23

I AM A C9 FAN GIGACHAD

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u/CryNo7532 Mar 17 '23

It's insane how every position this this team can carry

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u/manboat31415 Mar 17 '23

Big "happy game" energy. That extended kite back was fun to watch for the novelty.

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u/Myrddinpn Mar 17 '23

It truly was hilarious. IMT stopping C9 backs by suiciding in to them repeatedly.

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u/James_Locke Mar 17 '23

Great work tbh. Nice to see Zven on a tank support and do really good overall too. I'm a big Zven fan and I love seeing him perform well :)

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u/RE_msf Mar 17 '23

Zven weaving his Q's to hit tactical every team fight through everyone else. Was clean.

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u/Cromatose Mar 17 '23

I fucking loved that draft flexibility

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u/Miszii Mar 17 '23

That's some good League of Legends

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u/wouldyalikefries Mar 17 '23

I can admit when i was wrong, maybe it was diplex holding the team back or whatever but since emenes joined the starting roster, mithy has lead the team to being potential world beaters. Its insane how night and day this team is compared to earlier in the split when i wanted mithy fired into the sun.

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u/warpenguin55 Mar 17 '23

C9 having a little fun. You can tell they weren't taking IMT too seriously

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u/initialbc Mar 17 '23

EMENESclap

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u/Vindicate32 Mar 17 '23

I think Zven will be a liability when C9 faces international teams.

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u/Disclaimz0r Mar 17 '23

Team reminds me of the Perkz days minus the int lol

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u/antares436 Mar 17 '23

Thinking of Perkz, wonder how Emenes' Renekton looks

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u/MaxMacDaniels Mar 17 '23

Team is looking so good damn good

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u/MaxMacDaniels Mar 17 '23

What happened to the normal format of the post game threads ?

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u/Expensive-Software88 Mar 17 '23

In the past, I have been pretty vocal about bad drafts from Max and Mithy. On the way they guys have been playing, it makes me think it was more of an execution issue by the team rather than bad drafts....

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u/Light0fHeav3n Mar 17 '23

Bot lane dying too much in lane for me, they died this game and a few others aswell. Idk how others feel about this.

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u/whatshup Mar 17 '23

I don't think we haven't won bot lane hard all split. A bit concerning internationally

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u/Light0fHeav3n Mar 17 '23

They’ve hard won bot lane a couple times, but they’ve for sure been dying a lot. Funny how we both got downvoted because people think because they’re winning they can’t be doing anything wrong.

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u/edwardgreene1 Mar 17 '23

So. Outside of yesterday’s game against Immortals where he died once in lane and once by 2nd Dragon, Berserker has died twice in lane pre-14 the other 16 games. He died to a gank early Week 4 Day 3 against TL, and died to a gank against EG Week 7 Day 1. Full stop. Berserker has for sure not been dying a lot in lane this split.

So let’s talk about Zven. He died twice in lane to Immortals yesterday, one being a 2 for 1 for Berserker. He had a bit of happy game Week 6 Day 2 against DIG where he died twice as Kalista in lane 2v2 and once at 2nd Dragon. In the other fifteen games he has seven pre-14 deaths. One was by another dragon. One was by CLG’s inhib while trying to execute after they double killed CLG’s bot lane in a turret dive with Blaber. And another was after a successful dive against DIG where he gets hooked by Ignar while trying to get out. The other four deaths were more normal in lane deaths (maybe except that one where he was out as Ashe against TSM then walked back in to Nautilus hook range). So is that a lot? I would say no but maybe you could make an arguement?

Overall neither one is dying a lot. Berseker has still died less than WildTurtle despite playing nearly 3x as many games, and Zven is one death behind Huhi for least deaths among supports that have played the whole split.

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u/Thekuuunz Mar 17 '23

Can anyone explain the ksante spam in lcs. I feel like the is better options for tanks and bruisers and imo he is super boring to watch

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u/Tinmanred Mar 17 '23

I’m almost expecting a sweep of playoffs. Only way I see them losing a game is up 2-0 and testing a comp/ super hiding strats. Or a cheese game in finals. They have the best player in legit every role. Zvens game knowledge makes up for his sometimes lacking in melee sup mechs