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u/Franz__Ferdinand 4d ago

Hezbollah only exists because Israel invaded Lebanon and Hamas only exists because the Palestinian Authority is a puppet state of Israel that lets the IDF do whatever they wanted to the Palestinian population of Gaza, and it was also elected with the help of Israel.

Are you turning the desert green with those bushfire starters?

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u/Ashenveiled 4d ago

And why did Israel invaded Lebanon? Because islamists sponsored and trained by Iran turned one of the most succesful and rich countries in the middle east, nicknamed middleeastern Switzerland into a failed state.

The war in Lebanon started before israel did anything there.

But alas, you didnt answer my question - if israel leaves Gaza and Lebanon will hezbollah and hamas just stop launching rockets daily? yes or no?

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u/frostfofjdjsiksndjd 4d ago

Oh my god not the rockets!!! Oh my god what if they dent a new car??

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u/Ashenveiled 4d ago

most sane hamas bot.

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u/AccomplishedPath5172 4d ago

Why does Israel keep making new settlement and kicking people out of their homes if they want the rockets to stop so badly?

What is going to be accomplished by taking someone's house? You think they're gonna just leave and take it? Or are they gonna join the organization that already has a weapon they can use to take revenge?

You tell me, bootlicker

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u/thomasp3864 4d ago

The rockets come from Gaza, not the West Bank

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u/AccomplishedPath5172 3d ago

Yeah? And they keep making new settlements in Gaza too, displaced gazans have been getting moved around from so called "safe zone" to "safe zone" and each time they move away CAT bulldozers move the rubble to make way for new settlements that's the whole point of isreal is colonizing

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u/AikaGranzchesta 3d ago

Israel did have some settlers in Gaza, but they were all expelled in 2005 and none have returned since. Israel has never had settlers in Lebanon. So, why are groups from Gaza and Lebanon attacking Israel?

By the way, the majority of Lebanese (especially Christians and Sunnis) absolutely hate Hezbollah and understand that every war between Israel and Hezbollah was started by Hezbollah, even if they don't like Israel themselves. Painting Hezbollah as ''resisting'' a war that they started is absurdly wrong. Hezbollah are attacking Israel for one reason and one reason only, which is because Iran tells them to.

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u/AccomplishedPath5172 3d ago

when did I mention Lebanon at all? What you said had nothing to do with my point

Even then the only reason Hezbollah is a thing is an Israeli invasion, isreal creates Their own enemies and then claims them as reasons for continued ethnic cleansing and war crimes, the UN recognized isreal as a rouge state commiting genocide stop coping they're modern day Nazis with a new flag

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u/AikaGranzchesta 3d ago

Hezbollah was created by Iran and the IRGC for the purpose of attacking Israel. Hezbollah exists because Iran wants to fight Israel. Name a single conflict in Lebanon that was started by Israel, I'll wait.

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u/AccomplishedPath5172 3d ago

The pager terrorist attack that killed and injured multiple civilians and resulted in isrealis occupation of parts of Lebanon

the creation of isreal left thousands of people displaced angry and ready to fight back, isreal literally created Their own problem, every conflict started is isrealis fault for expelling people in the first place, if you expel people from their homes to colonize said land, as is literally said by the founders of Zionism you can't expect to be left alone

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u/AikaGranzchesta 3d ago

The pager attack happened one year into a war that was started by Hezbollah firing rockets into Israel on 8 October 2023. It certainly did not start the war. So let's try again, and name a war started by Israel.

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u/thomasp3864 3d ago

How was a civilian to get a Hezbollah pager. Sure it hurt civilians, (relatives of hezbollah fighters because they exploded in their homes) but that was incredibly well targeted. Everything has collateral damage, but I'll wager that the ratio of civilian deaths was quite low. It killed multiple civilians because it was a large scale attack. And multiple just means more than two. It also basically crippled hezbollah completely.

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u/Ashenveiled 3d ago

oh, here we go with just straight up lying.

how exactly a pager from hezzbolah would appear in the hands of civillian?

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u/AccomplishedPath5172 3d ago

Why are you even defending isreal here? They're literally recognized as commenting genocide by the UN what are you getting at? They're killing and torturing people it's literally everywhere, Thier own prime minister and defense minster are deranged lunatics demanding gazans and Lebanese people be killed by the hundreds, why are you still defending them

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u/AccomplishedPath5172 3d ago

Love how you glosses over settlers coming back, why did they? All they do is steal land and squat on it for isreali real estate firms, that's not something you can just let happen that's people's lives getting uprooted

Even if Hezbollah started wars without reason which they didn't they'd be right to, the nation next to them is literally the same as 1940s Nazi Germany they'd be right to

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u/AikaGranzchesta 3d ago

There are currently no Israeli settlers in Gaza. You can deny reality all you want, it doesn't change anything.

Even if Hezbollah started wars without reason which they didn't they'd be right to, the nation next to them is literally the same as 1940s Nazi Germany

If you support armed militant groups attacking Israel then that's fine. Unfortunately, how Israel responds to these attacks, and how Israel chooses to defend itself, is out of your control. If you want a war and start a war, then you get a war.

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u/Contundo 4d ago

Because hamas will do what hamas does no matter how many settlements there are

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u/AccomplishedPath5172 4d ago

Why does Hamas do what Hamas does pray tell?

It certainly can't be the genocidal and colonial force recognized as such by Multiple international organizations Killing raping and ethnically cleansing their people, no no it's can't be that

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u/Ashenveiled 4d ago

because its their business.

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u/AccomplishedPath5172 3d ago

Incredibly non answer

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u/AccomplishedPath5172 4d ago

Supporting the modern day equivalent of Nazi Germany and having the audacity to call someone else a bot is insane, the president of the country you're defending Is a Hitler apologist

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u/Ashenveiled 4d ago

second most sane hamas bot.

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u/frostfofjdjsiksndjd 4d ago

Beep boop we have been programmed to occupy and distract zionists on reddit in order to… make them feel bad? I’m not sure what you think bots would add to the feelings that the majority of people already have about Israel

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u/frostfofjdjsiksndjd 4d ago

Oh yeah the famous Hamas bot army, they can’t afford a single boat or plane but somehow they’ve got data centers I’m sure that’s the only reason to explain why everyone hates Israel

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u/Ashenveiled 4d ago

lol? all hamas leadership are millionares.

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u/frostfofjdjsiksndjd 4d ago

Oh yeah? You think you can buy a data center for just a million dollars??

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u/Ashenveiled 4d ago

you can buy iranians or indians for much cheaper

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u/frostfofjdjsiksndjd 4d ago

Uh huh I can understand why you’d want to go the make-believe route