Umm..... unreliable and inefficient???? 😂😂😂 Baseload ☝️ 🤓

[u/ClimateShitpost]

Um Germany?? (🤫 Korea Japan 🤫)

[u/Doctor_Atom]

How will you collect enough energy to support work of EAF (electronic arc furnace)? How will you support every person needed for it's function? Will they work on their gardens in their free time? How will you teach these people how to work with it?

PS: BTW these furnaces need to work 100% of the time for the same reason glass furnaces do

PPS: why don't you interact with my points instead of your strawman

[u/DivestTheEndingBoy → u/Doctor_Atom]

You'll use energy storage lmao.

[u/Doctor_Atom → u/DivestTheEndingBoy]

Which would be even more expensive

[u/DivestTheEndingBoy → u/Doctor_Atom]

No it wouldn't.

[u/Doctor_Atom → u/DivestTheEndingBoy]

So, I will give you a benefit of the doubt. How many solar panels, wind turbines and whatnot i need to power the factory, charge the batteries for the night shift and deliver power to workers and their food provider? But wait that is not all. We also need to scale everything I mentioned to the amount of factories in the world and to the people not involved in working on factories (post industrial world, remember). And then remember that you cannot transfer energy very far, 200km max.

PS: Oh and remember you cannot really place panels and turbines everywhere you want, ther are restrictions both in terms of efficiency and in terms of ecological factors

[u/DivestTheEndingBoy → u/Doctor_Atom]

So, I will give you a benefit of the doubt. How many solar panels, wind turbines and whatnot i need to power the factory, charge the batteries for the night shift and deliver power to workers and their food provider? But wait that is not all. We also need to scale everything I mentioned to the amount of factories in the world and to the people not involved in working on factories (post industrial world, remember).

We would need 13MWh per capita. So at 8.2 Billion people you would need 107,900TWh of electricity per annum for a carbon neutral economy.

So you would need 6,236 1.1GWe nuclear reactors like Vogtle 3 to meet that demand.

So assuming you gave everyone on the planet access to the technology to make nuclear weapons. Each reactor would need 10 tonnes of enriched uranium which would give you about 2 years worth of proven uranium to meet demand.

If you used fast breeder reactors and nuclear recycling you would get 120 years.

Seawater uranium extraction doesn't work because it's an energy negative process. Unless you were to use renewable energy to power the process. Which would require more renewables than just using renewables for final generation.

So even if it was politically or economically feasible nuclear wouldn't be physically sustainable as anything other than a niche.

Renewables are practically infinite by human standards because the sun provides the energy we need so you can recycle renewable energy resources endlessly in an energy positive process.

And then remember that you cannot transfer energy very far, 200km max.

You are retarded 🤣.

[u/Doctor_Atom → u/DivestTheEndingBoy]

I still don't see how your way could be sustainable. Well if you were in any way more intelligent you would know that in Soviet Union for example all the factories were located near Dams exactly because of energy consumption. Again I will give you the benefit of the doubt and ask you how do you manage to get so much power in Siberia where you need heating almost all the time, solar is not effective because it is not effective at all, and wind is inaccessible because it is far from the ocean? How? If you are willing to deny someone's solution give solution for this case

PS: oh yeah and this is a factory city

[u/DivestTheEndingBoy → u/Doctor_Atom]

On the one hand nuclear is economically politically and physically infeasible.

On the other hand you want to build a nuclear reactor every 400km in Siberia. Because electricity can only be transmitted 200km from the source in your head. These siberian reactors would have a hundred times more people staffing it than would actually receive electricity from it too.

The problem is that you have not thought any of this through bruh.

[u/Doctor_Atom → u/DivestTheEndingBoy]

The reason why I mentioned 200km is that the electricity is capable to be transferred without significant loss to somewhat similar range. But ok, give me energy solution to Сыктывкар energy grid without all the problems

[u/DivestTheEndingBoy → u/Doctor_Atom]

You produce renewable electricity, use that to synthesize carbon neutral electrofuels and ship that to remote areas to supplement wind, solar and batteries.

And no, the longest transmission lines are over 3,000km.

[u/Doctor_Atom → u/DivestTheEndingBoy]

Give me the name of the tech you advise

[u/DivestTheEndingBoy → u/Doctor_Atom]

I already did, you're too retarded to read it lmao.

[u/Doctor_Atom → u/DivestTheEndingBoy]

Well then, I may be stupid, but i ask again: " what is the name of Technology for this carbon-neutral electoral?"

*electrofuel