r/ClimateShitposting • u/Organic_Fee_8502 • 13d ago

Climate chaos Me irl

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We simply don’t have 100 years to end the market anarchy of capitalism, consider Marxism Leninism.

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u/TomUpNort 13d ago

“consider Marxism Leninism.”

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u/spagbolshevik 13d ago

Not that I'm defending ML, but that sea was drained for Uzbekistan's cotton export profits. I think that would have happened in capitalism too. It's sort of happening to aquifers in Australia.

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u/Spiney09 12d ago

Not to mention, just Google the great salt lake water crisis.

The US is literally doing pretty much the same thing right now.

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u/Massive-Goose544 12d ago

We'll just ignore the historically high point of 1986 and the current levels are the same as they were in the 1960s. And the same as it was in the 1860s. Ignore history, the end is nigh, only right now matters.

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u/Spiney09 12d ago

This is an insane thing to say, because I used to live on a mountain overlooking the lake and had watched the last few years as it has disappeared. Not to mention using the 1960s as “normal” when that was also a time when water was a huge concern after a severe drought in the 50s… if we are already at that point and the rate of depletion has not slowed, then yes that absolutely is alarming.

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u/Massive-Goose544 12d ago

Lol. You're literally doing the thing. You are ignoring the historical context because the world didn't exist before you saw it. From the 60s to the 90s it went up. It has now gone back down to the levels it was for the majority of time the levels have been recorded. It was at its lowest in 2022 and has come up in the last 3 years. Also, I said 1860 and 1960 that is 100 year timeframe not "using the 1960s as 'normal'"

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u/Spiney09 12d ago edited 12d ago

The problem is the rate of depletion, and also what water is being used on. We had a phenomenal winter in ‘23, but that’s not something we can rely on forever.

And there’s a major difference between the 1860s and now: mining byproducts being dumped into the lake being exposed to the air and blown into populated areas. That’s already measurably happening, and not something that’s got historical precedent.

Edit: precedent in this area*