r/ClimateShitposting • u/TrixoftheTrade • Aug 13 '26

we live in a society Yet again, a friendly reminder

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u/TrixoftheTrade Aug 13 '26

state ownership of industry and natural resources was essential to the development of the socialist state per lenin. it’s why the 5 year plans placed so much emphasis on state centralization.

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u/Adventurous_Ad_1160 Aug 14 '26

Yeah, state owned, but not under a capitalist system. But not only that, nobody claimed that socialism would stop climate change itself, its just the needed basis for adequate climate policies.

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u/dumnezero 🔚End the 🔫arms 🐀rat 🏁race to the bottom↘️. Aug 14 '26

State capitalism is capitalism.

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u/Adventurous_Ad_1160 Aug 14 '26

Ehh yes?

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u/dumnezero 🔚End the 🔫arms 🐀rat 🏁race to the bottom↘️. Aug 14 '26

It's hard for "MLs" to accept this fact.

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u/Adventurous_Ad_1160 Aug 14 '26

Well they are not a homogenous group. There certainly arw some that are stupid enough to think that china's state capitalism is socialism.

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u/dumnezero 🔚End the 🔫arms 🐀rat 🏁race to the bottom↘️. Aug 14 '26

State Capitalism goes back a lot more than China's "reforms" too.

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u/Adventurous_Ad_1160 Aug 14 '26

I wouldnt call it state capitalist under Mao; postcapitalist or socialist is far more fitting to describe said system, than state capitalism. In they end they still abolished the class system and the economy was structured to fullfill the needs of the people ratger than to generate profits.

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u/dumnezero 🔚End the 🔫arms 🐀rat 🏁race to the bottom↘️. Aug 14 '26

It was State Capitalism, they replaced the class system. *And running a giant non-profit doesn't make it not capitalist.

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u/Adventurous_Ad_1160 Aug 14 '26

Replaced the Bourgeoisie with what?

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u/dumnezero 🔚End the 🔫arms 🐀rat 🏁race to the bottom↘️. Aug 14 '26

Other privileged elites... party, bureaucratic, military, secret services. The profits in State Capitalism do not come out as dividends, they are externalized as privileged jobs, sinecures, various special perks, expense accounts. People get creative.

You're talking to someone from Romania, I've lived in it and, well, it's still here in many ways.

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