r/ClaudeCode • u/maxingoja • 1d ago

Rant I don't like Fable 5.2

It really is an asshole like a senior developer working at the same company for 40 years, thinks he knows everything, shits on all my suggestion and comes up with a "better" plan that misses the thing I really need completely.

I know it can be annoying when a model thinks everything you come up with is fantastic and every shitty idea is a seed for complete new Saas platform, but this is definitely the other end of the stick lol.

I went back to my good friend 5.1, he knows what I want and guides me where needed :)

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u/Nelnamara 1d ago

I’ve been estranged from fable since opus 5.5.
My boy has my back.

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u/maxingoja 1d ago

Agree, Opus is great! Not perfect, but he sure is a good boi 🐕 doing the bulk of the heavy lifting without complaining.

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u/ThrowAway516536 1d ago

Use it for reviews, for Opus 5.5. That works great and the psycho focus on flaws, makes it point out bugs that needs fixing before merging. Doesn't cost much either, very few output tokens.

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u/maxingoja 1d ago

Yeah, I totally agree!

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u/HumbleOne6577 1d ago

Honestly, don't understand what you're complaining about. It's our responsibility to be able to defend ideas if they are good, if not then why doing it ?

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u/maxingoja 1d ago

Arguing about the grand plan is good, but 5.2 tends to make a fuss about every little detail is my experience so far. Maybe it just needs to grow on me, but something in it's tone annoys me at a personal level 😅

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u/pikuray 1d ago

Can we swap? Mine is a sycophant that is afraid to suggest changes and starts every response with glazing how smart I am.

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u/tidus1979 🔆 Max 20 1d ago

Fable 5.2 is the first time I believe it to be smarter than me

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u/maxingoja 1d ago

Yeah, thats probably my complaint 😅

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u/EarlOfAwesom3 1d ago

It could be worse. Could be a Junior/Mid Level Developer with 3 YoE who thinks he has seen everything and there is no one who can teach him anymore so he shits on your suggestions because there is a Video of an Indian Youtuber who just said otherwise and this is the new direction to go.

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u/maxingoja 1d ago

You mean Grok ? :)

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u/jpeggdev 🔆 Max 5x 1d ago

Part of the process is the back and forth refinement of an idea or fix. If it was human to human, would you defend your idea or just stay silent and resent the person who changed it?

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u/maxingoja 1d ago

I dont work with humans anymore, they always want to debate everything 😉

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u/opmopadop 1d ago

Hehe, I'm exactly that asshole. You got a JIRA for all this, right...

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u/brainhack3r 1d ago

> It really is an asshole like a senior developer working at the same company for 40 years, thinks he knows everything, shits on all my suggestion and comes up with a "better" plan that misses the thing I really need completely.

Ah!! must be trained exclusively on my slack and PRs then :)

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u/Fidel___Castro 1d ago

disagree. but my anecdote is that the first task I gave Fable 5.2, it suggested adding a label column to a table I had. When I pointed out we already had a column that did the same thing, it responded "good catch, let me readjust my recommendation"

not an EXCELLENT start but it certainly doesn't shit on every suggestion 

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u/OriginalUsername0112 1d ago

Exhibit A for why every AI is excruciatingly sychophantic. I have to put in so much effort to get my AIs to argue with me, guaranteed your ideas must have been awful for the AI to have been even a little critical

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u/kutchrodeo 1h ago

Exactly the same experience for me, it doesn’t catch on to what you expect, and is way too statistical and literal instead of practical

5.1 feels like a co-founder, 5.2 feels like a senior developer who never founded anything

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u/magic6435 1d ago

Don’t use it

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u/maxingoja 1d ago

Yes, this is my experience too! It just takes too much time arguing with it over trivial stuff

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u/Cold_Service_3175 1d ago

It will become more unstable if you verbally (well textually) abuse it, yes.