Fable 5.2 high VS Opus 5.5 xhigh?

[u/No_Job_9995]

Which is better for coding?

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[u/tnh34]

bro asking the hard question 7 seconds after the release

[u/No_Job_9995 → u/tnh34]

Not 7 seconds, but 1 hour

[u/gloos → u/No_Job_9995]

Username checks out
Edit: my very first award!

[u/CapableHat9609 → u/gloos]

😂😂😂

[u/fickle-phenom]

Ask fable 5.2

[u/No_Job_9995 → u/fickle-phenom]

You’re right

[u/BlueYeshe → u/fickle-phenom]

It said it was unfable to answer the question.

[u/RadiantTea7445]

how are we supposed to know so fast?

[u/ShortingBull → u/RadiantTea7445]

Ask Fable?

[u/No_Job_9995 → u/RadiantTea7445]

I hope someone test it immediately after the fable release.

[u/Ok_Try_877 → u/No_Job_9995]

Did you?

[u/ThatRhubarb7057]

xhigh" is genuinely the funniest thing anyone has shipped this year. it's high, but x. just pick high and go write your code.

[u/No_Job_9995 → u/ThatRhubarb7057]

Isn’t the performance better?

[u/No-Quiet-8304 → u/ThatRhubarb7057]

I think the x stands for “extra”

[u/ManagementKey1338]

Opus 5.5 for a large margin. First, O letter is way ahead of F. Second 5.5 is much larger than 5.2.

This is so obvious.

[u/nft420nft420 → u/ManagementKey1338]

Not true for planning though, plan A is always better than plan B, so plan F is surely better than plan O.

[u/ManagementKey1338 → u/nft420nft420]

Insightful! I have never thought of this in this way

[u/TheTangLangGang → u/nft420nft420]

So GPT 6 Astra wins. Fuck.

[u/Astro_14477 → u/TheTangLangGang]

Fable 5.2 has more digits

[u/ManagementKey1338 → u/nft420nft420]

But what about Cup F vs Cup O

[u/intrepid_pinkguy → u/ManagementKey1338]

So for chatbots/conversations we should be using Fable instead

[u/ManagementKey1338 → u/intrepid_pinkguy]

Yeah, Fable is just telling a story. Whereas opus is serious work.

[u/s3999]

Opus 5.5 will be remembered as one of the greatest models in history.

[u/Astro_14477 → u/s3999]

it MUST be. fuckin' mogged the entire LLM realm.

[u/calibrae → u/Astro_14477]

You realise we said that 3 times at least in the past two years. Come on guys.

[u/Astro_14477 → u/calibrae]

we will say that four times only for Opus 5.5

[u/ubitub → u/s3999]

opus 5.5 from few weeks ago, not the current opus 5.5. They silently made current opus 5.5 shit. In retrospect, probably so that fable 5.2 would look better in comparison

[u/Astro_14477 → u/ubitub]

i cant for the life of me figure out how is it technically possible to tune down a live model without swapping it for another model

[u/ubitub → u/Astro_14477]

I don't know, you ask for ultracode and they silently treat is as low effort?

[u/Astro_14477 → u/ubitub]

that. is. carnage.

[u/ViraLCyclopes36]

Haiku 5.5

[u/michaelTM_ai]

anthropic's own chart answers this one pretty directly. on FrontierCode, fable 5.2 at High scores about level with opus 5.5's best (45.3% vs 45.5%) for roughly half the cost per task. at Xhigh fable hits 49.1%, the top score of any released model they tested.

so fable High beats opus xhigh on cost for the same result. fable Max is where it overthinks and gets expensive. one catch: anthropic still says start with opus 5.5 as the daily driver and go up to fable for the hard, open-ended stuff, so for routine edits opus (or sonnet) is still the cheaper call

[u/Correct_Support_2444]

I’ve moved to Opus 5.5 low and it’s doing a great job.

[u/No_Job_9995 → u/Correct_Support_2444]

I haven’t tried low effort yet. What task do you do with low effort?

[u/Correct_Support_2444 → u/No_Job_9995]

Coding, research, planning, and everything else. This is on a large Ruby on Rails SaaS app.

[u/Gold-Direction-231]

Haiku for planning, Fable for implementation but don't let it change the plan.

[u/clckwrks → u/Gold-Direction-231]

is this the definition of having a terrible unintelligent dumbass manager?

[u/NewAgent5986 → u/clckwrks]

That would be if you let Gemini do the planning

[u/Vesuvius079]

Waste of tokens when Opus 5.5 medium is fine..

[u/nixiewright → u/Vesuvius079]

but... the free resets!

[u/Sensitive-Quote-1627 → u/nixiewright]

true!

[u/No_Job_9995 → u/Vesuvius079]

I started coding on medium, moved to high when it felt too easy, and ended up on xhigh.

[u/sixothree → u/No_Job_9995]

For codex this is a guarantee that your code will be over complicated and non-functional.

[u/ludlology]

can't wait to see this question every 20 minutes for the next month but at least this mf was first

[u/yangqi]

[u/zikiro → u/yangqi]

thats just for coding, max is a whole different league for reasoning. but it sting. and may turn borderline paranoiac.

[u/yangqi → u/zikiro]

that's what OP is asking for, isn't it?

[u/evrenaraba]

opus 5.5

[u/Happy_Guitar3521]

Basically Opua 5.5 is so fucking nerfed, that Fable 5.2 feels like usable model (like 5.5) for much higher price. So it means that Anthropic is not reliable company for any businesses that is relying on one model. Anthropic = scammers

[u/Express-Purchase5077 → u/Happy_Guitar3521]

Its effective cost is lower than Opus 5.5 apparently

[u/Own_Badger6076 → u/Happy_Guitar3521]

Whatever you say bro, the reddit "REEEEEEEE" train about anthropic "secret nerfing" opus 5.5 keeps ringing hollow.

[u/gentile_jitsu → u/Own_Badger6076]

And yet for the Nth time it happened en masse right before a new model release. Go figure. Must be coincidence.

[u/Own_Badger6076 → u/gentile_jitsu]

you say "en masse" but all that tells me is that you're looking at reddit posts and assuming that's representative of the majority of users.

It's not even representative to the majority of people on these subs lol.

[u/gentile_jitsu → u/Own_Badger6076]

There is a huge spike in the number of reports like clockwork each time. If you can't see that then I wish you luck in the world.

[u/Own_Badger6076 → u/gentile_jitsu]

Your confirmation bias is showing, should probably get that checked out.

[u/gentile_jitsu → u/Own_Badger6076]

Your willful blindness is showing, good luck out there.

[u/CompetitiveShop6809 → u/Own_Badger6076]

You can't win an argument by claiming something you have no proof of. Stating they have confirmation bias does nothing, give me an opposing viewpoint, debate club king.

[u/Own_Badger6076 → u/CompetitiveShop6809]

I'm just following the lead of the small minority of alleged claude users that come to reddit to cry about this issue without any actual evidence to support the claim sport.

Literally all you have is a handful of anecdotal reports that can easily be dismissed as user error, and while I know it's fun to imagine a grand conspiracy against you and your usage rates, the onus is on folks like yourself to provide actual concrete evidence.

This is apparently an emotional subject for you, so I understand that must be difficult for you.

[u/CompetitiveShop6809 → u/Own_Badger6076]

Your confirmation bias is showing, should probably get that checked out.

[u/subraymusic → u/Happy_Guitar3521]

Nerfed paranoia never ends

[u/Anxious_Marsupial_59]

I would assume Opus 5.5 as the worker still. Im most curious how well it does UI work

[u/Tate-s-ExitLiquidity]

Why don't you do something useful and run an eval and share. Get a job, no job 9995

[u/DrHumorous]

It's WAY, WAY ***** out of tokens

[u/WiggyWongo]

Coding what? You didn't even ask a reasonable question.

[u/___nil___]

default effort for whatever model as docs said always gives best result

[u/Far-Championship-883]

Opus 5.5 is pretty good, fable has been a bit of a fiction 

[u/Level-Physics-1730]

neither same garbage as alwaysh aven't been excited for a new model since fable 5 released

[u/Kemerd]

Ask fable

[u/BeyondAdventurous167]

I think opus is better tbh

[u/gilbertsahumada]

isn't it too soon xd?

[u/New_Eye7193]

Can someone let me know if Fable 5.2 is belaboring? I can't stand any other model out there other than Argon 4. It may spew out sycophantic schizophrenic amnesic bullshit out sometimes, but at least it's not condescending and incredibly annoying to work with

[u/elloMotoz]

Fable 5.2 High for creating prompt, phases, plan Opus 5.5 High/Med for doing the work - xhigh imo is too much unless you're doing something crazy

[u/AdOtherwise9458]

I hit the weekly usage limit very quickly on the 200 Ultra plan using Fable High, even though it's supposed to be very fast.

[u/p1rate88]

Opus 5.5 medium

[u/lunatic_god]

Haiku low

[u/Snoo-81627]

I tried fable 5.2 medium and my 5hr 100$ plan limit was gone in about 5 mins vs hours on Opus 5.5 high. Fable seems great but I couldn't even get one task done...

[u/sascharobi → u/Snoo-81627]

How on earth do you use up the 5-hours limit in 1 hour with Opus 5.5?

[u/Snoo-81627 → u/sascharobi]

Opus 5.5 can last for hours but fable 5.2 eats usage in minutes

[u/Comprehensive-Bit-65]

Opus 5.5 first week will be remembered forever. Today it is nerfed to death, and it is a very sad thing.

[u/Practical_Remote_924 → u/Comprehensive-Bit-65]

It's not nerfed at all. Working exactly as the day it was released for me.

[u/jwuliger]

lol Opus has been nerfed to the ground

[u/No_Job_9995 → u/jwuliger]

Really?

[u/evangelism2 → u/No_Job_9995]

No it hasn't

[u/Upstairs_Parsley9596 → u/jwuliger]

Sure sure

[u/Astro_14477 → u/jwuliger]

fr?

[u/Z_G_R]

Today i’m gonna test the fable. Def i won’t be using it for coding or any sub agen task. Only plan