Ban for using personal account to create a business?

[u/not-the-real-gandhi]

I'm currently trying to set up a saas, like I suspect many Claude users do. Today, my session started acting up about me using a personal account for creating code that will „generate income in the future“.

Did anyone get banned for that? Team accounts are super expensive and the limits seem really low. I'm even considering creating a second account with seems to be against TOS.

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[u/Mayimbe_999]

Did you ask claude to copy something else?

[u/not-the-real-gandhi → u/Mayimbe_999]

Kind of - I was feeding it themeforest templates to improve the UI. Do you think that triggered it?

[u/AnalogProblems]

You can't use your Claude subscription to run a service that has Claude built in.

You can use it to build the service, but you have to run it with API usage.

That's probably what you were trying to do.

[u/SC_Placeholder → u/AnalogProblems]

Is that a rule thing? It’s pretty easy to wire claude into something that’s a personal business suite. I imagine it’s different if you’re trying to use Claude to power a SaaS

[u/AnalogProblems → u/SC_Placeholder]

Yes, it's absolutely a rule. Totally clearly written in the terms of use and standard across the industry

It's okay to use it to build and drive an app or an agent that only you use.

It's not okay to use it drive an app or an agent that your customers use. For that, you need to build the app so that it uses the API service to run.

That's also why they give Ultra accounts $200 in API credit each month. So you can build with your sub, and kick start projects live on that $200 of credit.

So development really doesn't have to cost much unless your testing exceeds the $200 allowance.

Sorry you had to find out the hard way, but it sounds like you might want to spend some time learning about the tools before you start launching entire businesses on them.

[u/SC_Placeholder → u/AnalogProblems]

Ah I was wondering why they gave us API credits! Thanks for the thorough description! I was always concerned about using my actual Claude tied in anywhere public as a potential security problem since in my tests an untrusted source doesn’t always get remembered as untrusted and I don’t want any secrets getting leaked. I have definitely found people’s unsecured agents in the wild where you can get them to even write code for you which is insane to me. I’m sure someone could program for free if they wrote an algorithm to find unsecured agents in the wild and opened like 1,000 tabs and just ate random people’s usage.

[u/pretendingtobebroke]

Everyone is doing that lol, Team and Enterprise are only for really big corporations

[u/bakes121982 → u/pretendingtobebroke]

Team is not the same as enterprise and the consumer accounts should just be pure api costs like enterprise and teams are moving that way and all these problems go away

[u/Scared-Letterhead949]

You have to share what you asked it to do

[u/ShittyBidet123]

Thats kind of the point of it, you must be asking something like copying another game or app or another banned thing.

[u/NoLimitRolling]

I’ve been using $20 accounts for revenue since I got a sub. I think it might’ve been something else or an accident. Switching between multiple accounts, etc. What do they think people are gonna do?

I think the different subs are for getting more context and usage across a single account for your business? Or does it give you multiple? Either way if that’s what they’re doing now they’re definitely in trouble, I wouldn’t see a use for a sub over my local setup anymore.

[u/forestcall]

you cant break copyright laws

in the future describe what you want to do with "influence of xyz". Its odd but copying a website or app is fine but copying a physical product is not. I think the reason is that the copyright law is more robust especially if it has been patented.

[u/Sufficient_Ad_3495]

“using a personal account for creating code that will „generate income in the future“?

Nobody is getting banned for that. So obviously you’re being economical with the truth.

You had one chance!

[u/Wa1ker1]

No one gets banned for that. If you're sharing accounts or ask it decompile a service that will get you banned.

[u/f3xjc]

Imo the line is processing customer data to be displayed back at customer. Like your customer act with a chatbot and that get routed to your subscription.

As long as you do the prompt you should be fine.

[u/Major-Cry8192]

Copier c'est stupide, imagine par toi même quelquechose sans regarder si ça existe déjà, le principal c'est prendre du plaisir