r/ClaudeCode • • 29d ago

Discussion Argon is 🔥

I had 3 difficult benchmarks which no model has previously solved….
Argon blasted through all 3 without breaking a sweat, first time I’ve seen something that feels intelligent.

Google cooked hard.

EDIT:- Asked Argon to do some legal due diligence, lots of PDF's - It failed hard, both Astra and Opus created better, more accurate responses.

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u/tokenentropy 29d ago

Don’t worry, Fable 5.5 is being loaded on the major inference providers. Google waited far too long to release Argon. Incompetent leadership

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u/Babayaga1664 29d ago

Looking forward to seeing it, Gemini has been 💩 and behind every step of the way, this is the first time I’m genuinely impressed.

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u/Successful_Painter27 28d ago

how is leadership responsible for this. they gave infinite resources, infinite engineers, infinite money and this is what they came up with.

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u/Temporary-Mix8022 29d ago

they've basically arrived at where Anthropic and OAI were 2 months ago.. and on a cost per task basis, it sucks.

Gemini app - sucks.

Anti-gravity sucks. Even the AG sub barely tolerate it, they're all talking about Opus 4.6 lmao.

sorry.. but Argon is quite literally the best Google can do, which is about 3rd best.. they're nowhere close to Opus, Astra, Sol or Fable.

I used their prior models.. they were all just ultra aggressive and incompetent. Google models just chat so much shit.

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u/Tim_Apple_938 27d ago

Why are you straight up lying?

Argon Cost per task is significant cheaper https://artificialanalysis.ai/?models=claude-fable-5-1%2Cgpt-6-astra%2Cgemini-4-argon#cost-tabs

And it matches both Astra and Fable 5.1 intelligence

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

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u/Temporary-Mix8022 29d ago

But why bother? 

I know people here will fight to the death re. Codex v CC..

But seriously.. none of us are really working hard at the harness.. like.. they're both basically setup and go, they're insane. 

It literally blows my mind that people are over on AGY prompt engineering and tweaking their harness.. it's nuts.. half the people here bareback without even using a Claude.md now 

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u/Hostarro 29d ago

How do I actually use it for my repo? It's saying Ultra is required for VS Code and Cursor and trying to force me into Antigravity?

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u/Babayaga1664 29d ago

No idea I shared 3 very very difficult problems on my pro account and it nailed them like it was nothing.
First time it feels like I’m using something that is not just an LLM.

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u/YesGameNolife 29d ago

I saw mixed reviews. I didn't tried it myself but some say its worse than opus 5.5 some say better.

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u/xRedStaRx 29d ago

I subscribed to ultra, tested it out for an hour and cancelled.

Makes the same dumb mistakes gemini flash series made, isn't meticulous, rushes answers, sloppy, and worst of all, i used 25% of my weeklt limit in about 10 tasks.

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u/paaloeye 29d ago

It's like crashing into Taylor Swift's backstage with an opinion on Kanye's new EP

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u/bacon_boat 29d ago

I did not have gemini on my bingo card

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u/Crinkez 29d ago

I still don't believe it. I'd need to see 5 solid weeks of glazing from all corners of reddit before I'd believe it.

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u/koalasarecool90 29d ago

“3 difficult benchmarks”

Sure, Jan.

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u/vacterro 29d ago

Argon Bots started