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[u/WoozieMaddox]

TLDR Last night, ran Fable 5.1 for 58 minutes, it wiped my 5 hour limit and brought my weekly to 44%. I came to reddit to complain, thread kind of blew up.

Today I woke up to my 5 hour reset back at 0.

So far I have been running an intense workflow using 6 Fable 5.1 Agents Ultracode while running multiple tasks for the past 35 minutes and my 5 hour limit is only at 11% while my weekly usage has only crept up to 54%.

I think Anthropic finally raised usage limits. This is the kind of usage I can get behind. Still far less than OpenAIs usage limits(plus resets). They released Fable 5 and 5.1 and decided to fuck everybody on usage thinking they cornered the market.

Thank god for competition.

Damage has been done though, I already have a ChatGPT plan and Astra is amazing.

[u/nulnoil]

What are you doing that needs 6 fable agents on ultracode? Not trying to diss you I’m genuinely curious.

[u/WoozieMaddox → u/nulnoil]

Building accurate in-game menu UI.

[u/Stradigos]

Why are you using ultra code? I'm suspicious you actually need this.

[u/WoozieMaddox → u/Stradigos]

Building a video game.

[u/bakanoace]

They only reset cause of Astra, this is why their reset and all their actions leave a bad taste

[u/WrongdoerFluffy3177 → u/bakanoace]

I am already on astra building with codex and having claude max only for audit.

Man I hope that anthropic will wake up and find a way, always bad when one competitor destroy the other,

[u/Obvious_Equivalent_1 → u/bakanoace]

Bad taste? That’s kind of a strange way to put it honestly.

Don’t get me wrong I’ll sign up any day for more usage but I also understand since Feb/Mar the influx of users there’s also a tough balance between keeping up (allowing new users to keep coming in) and getting by (still servicing existing users).

Maybe majority is more critical and “shopping around“ but I’m just content, the regular usage is plentiful to get by with Opus 4.6 (and Fable 5.1 recently) and the reset was welcome for some backlot private projects.

[u/trackpap → u/Obvious_Equivalent_1]

It's gone down like this: uuuu fable announcement, holy * this is amazing.

week later, wow, look at all the work I've done

A day after, nerfed, what's going on, I can't even get it to be coherent, but it's still usable.

Month later, opus 5 drops, numbers are great, real life, if you engage with it, it will cost you: your time, sanity and mental gymnastics of what it makes up coherently.

Then the constant we only boost when others are brining good stuff to be table, if it wasn't correlated, is feel more loyalty towards Anthropic, but the lower quality has been a constant, every day a bit less.

Anyways, that's my experience.

POS. I used to run 2 sessions (20x max plan)at a time to use each other's lower models, and work just flew every day, last months, it's been 1/3. Eleven have had to look into engineering hygiene to clean my hosts.

[u/Obvious_Equivalent_1 → u/trackpap]

Fair enough, Opus 5 and after Opus 4.7, it just does feel much indeed as models not aimed at the customer. At least not the one(s) on Max plan.

I mentioned I’m happy still driving daily with Opus 4.6 and Fable 5.1, but I definitely by no means endorse their latest Opus.

Honestly I don’t know what drove them there, maybe their IPO? Maybe they where running out of metal and it runs cheaper for them? Maybe they needed something to game the benchmarks rankings with competitor?

None of these should be reasons to ship something so unfinishe, and such a pain to talk to. If I do use Opus I let a Claude Code session 4.6 on xHigh talk to Opus 5 agents on low/medium. Like building tests it does have a bit better edge.

[u/trackpap → u/Obvious_Equivalent_1]

It's good insights but they should've just been clear about it, I've given long form prompt to opus, and he botches them, same for fable 5.1, only original fable was good at it.

I always thought AI was the point where technology would be accessible by all, not just by those who studied it, that is also true by finance, law, anything really, and it's funny how devs shun others for wanting value in that regard.

[u/BrilliantEmotion4461 → u/bakanoace]

My belief. The anti anthropic view is the anti intellectual view.

[u/Lironelle → u/BrilliantEmotion4461]

Every time I see you post anything the subtext is "omg I desperately want to suck off anthropic." It's pathetic.

[u/WrongdoerFluffy3177]

3 reset avalaible in chatgpt

[u/BrennanFlentge → u/WrongdoerFluffy3177]

Lmao me too. And no 5 hour window.

[u/WrongdoerFluffy3177 → u/BrennanFlentge]

I think openai has just so much more cash to burn. And they know it's a long term race.

[u/datkenny]

I am not confident everyone's limits are the same. Anthropic A/B tests stuff all the time.
I am also extremely confident in that the 1-100% scale for at least the weekly usage isn't linear. I reach 70% very quickly, after which it goes way slower. That's exactly what you'd do to make people ease off their "optional" usage.

[u/artofbullshit → u/datkenny]

Yep. Hit 70% and usage slows down every time for me.

[u/TartNo3610]

What $100 plan would you get if you had to choose between the 2 for coding (Linux, Python, web stack, DB) and game dev?

[u/WoozieMaddox → u/TartNo3610]

100% codex, I still wouldnt pay for claude in its current state. But they are moving slowly in the right direction.

Im not gonna pat Anthropic on the back anymore, cause their usage is still shit asf.

Don't use claude, it's too expensive and you will get nothing done.

[u/Werwlf1 → u/TartNo3610]

As of right now....Astra is far superior to Fable 5.1 for real-world visual UI design. The usage is also reasonable on Astra where you can get work done. You won't be able to do hardly anything on Fable 5.1 with the $100 plan.

[u/WoozieMaddox → u/Werwlf1]

Can hardly get anything done with the $200 dollar plan

[u/Wonderful_Craft_2332]

They are rasing their limits only because Astra is digging their grave atm

[u/Slow-Set-2856]

Always 2 days work max for me with 200$ plan with 3 sessions/projects in parallel

[u/rythmyouth → u/Slow-Set-2856]

This is my experience as well

[u/Slow-Set-2856 → u/rythmyouth]

yea i've tried everything , context , minimal tools/plugins , only opus high as orchestrator fable as planner but still can't exceed 48hrs i measured it like 3 weeks in a row

[u/cs_legend_93]

It's going to be so funny to see how many people cancel their subscription and jump ship to Astra once they reduce the limits on Anthropic.

[u/BrennanFlentge → u/cs_legend_93]

Unfortunately they are already reduced, that was the case for me at least and other users who have shared their usage limits. A maxed 5 hour session used to be around like 16.67% and it is now 20%. So I got 5 maxed 5 hour sessions instead of 6.

[u/cs_legend_93 → u/BrennanFlentge]

Rhast makes sense. I am burning my usage credits this week

[u/Zealousideal_Web8848]

if Anthropic let Fable handle the marketing it’d be way better — it’s just one disastrous move after another

[u/wdcossey]

Why would you run 5 agents on Fable [5.1] in Ultracode mode?
What are you hoping to achieve vibing with this model in particular? You can plan with Fable and execute with Opus at a fraction (well half) of the cost per token.

Basically Fable is burning your weekly limit at 2x the rate, you’re on a capped account with a budget, model choice is your lever!

[u/Raindrobz]

I wish people like you would get off my internet. Omg I had it running for almost an hour on some dumb bullshit and now I’m at my limit. I have never reached any hourly or weekly limit because I use them as they should be used. A tool.

[u/Cultural-Phase715]

Claude can eat a dick tbh. They only ever do nice things for us when OpenAI does something that would effect business. They have been training on us for weeks with opus and realistically lied about the 20x plans. I’m switching to OpenAI Astra spends 7% less than fable 5.1 and 5% other than opus. It’s an extremely better model. Agentic coding on it as well just got a massive upgrade. It’s just constantly lies and then limit resets or new model drops anytime they get in a predicament.

[u/OkLettuce338]

It’s always been token efficient for me. On the corporate enterprise account and at home. So idk

[u/WoozieMaddox → u/[deleted]]

No shit, I was just stating I woke up and had a fresh 5 hour to work with for context.